celibacy has worked so well for the Catholic priesthood they are trying to expand it to us

[dsc]

The ministry is called Courage, and its aim, in the words of its executive director, is to "assist men and women who are afflicted with the thorn of same-sex attraction." A 29-year-old international ministry with about 90 U.S. chapters, the Courage Apostolate will serve as a kind of support group -- like Alcoholics Anonymous -- for men and women who want to remain celibate.

The move is part of a more aggressive push by the dioceses of Raleigh and Charlotte to march in step with the Vatican on the issue of homosexuality. On Feb. 24, the bishops of both dioceses will hold a news conference at the legislature to announce their support for an amendment to the state's constitution defining marriage as a union of a man and a woman. The effort is intended to quash the possibility of same-sex marriage, should a court find North Carolina's law prohibiting gay unions unconstitutional.

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The late Pope John Paul II endorsed the work of Courage. More recently, Pope Benedict XVI reiterated the implacable opposition of the church to homosexuality. The Vatican refused to back a United Nations resolution urging the banning of criminal penalties against homosexuality. Last year the Vatican urged seminaries to enlist the aid of psychologists in screening candidates for homosexuality and other "psychic disturbances."

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Next month, the Rev. Paul Check, national director of Courage, will lead a workshop in Raleigh for priests and lay leaders. A priest in the Diocese of Bridgeport, Conn., Check has written widely on homosexuality, including one article in which he suggests that gay men come from broken homes or grew up alienated from their fathers and overprotected by their mothers.

"For example, many men with same sex attraction lack hand-eye coordination and as a result were spurned or the subject of jokes by their fathers or the neighborhood boys because they could not play certain sports easily," Check wrote in the St. Austin Review's November-December 2008 edition.

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This is hilarious until you think of all the children who lost their childhoods on the alter of celibate priests. Will they never learn?

[NOW tense]

1. "Religion is the frozen thought of man

out of which they build temples." Jiddu Krishnamurti

[MineralMan]

2. And the Roman Catholic Church steps back in time

again. Spouting the old myths and creating some new ones, it shows itself to be more irrelevant than ever.

[rurallib]

3. Those support group meetings may be a good place to pick up

frustrated members of the opposite sex and get some action.
:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[bluedawg12]

4. I see three flaws in the Church's philosophy.

1.) That enforced celibacy is a good to strive for.

2.) That denying one's own sexuality is a good to strive for.

3.)Pedophelia is synonymous with same sex orientation.

[donco6]

5. Right.

No broken home here. My mother didn't care for me at all - my older brother drowned when I was little and we had a "Ordinary People" relationship. So no "smother mother" BS there. And my hand/eye coordination was fine. I could hold my own in any sport in HS.

On the other hand, I much preferred reading and music as a kid - from my youngest days. I was very competitive, but just not in sports.

If "Courage" is like any other ex-gay group I've ever known, I'd be watching this Paul Check like a hawk.

[Eryemil]

6. If prayer actually worked a meteor would be hurling towards Vatican City right now

I cannot possibly hate these fuckers any more.

[mitchtv]

7. the altar of celibate priests

although they should be altered. Sorry to be a bitch DSC it's just the residual catholicism

[dsc]

8. I wrote this letter to the News and Observer

When I moved down to North Carolina I drove through the night and discovered that John Tesh had a radio show where he dispensed advice. My first thought was who would go to John Test for advice. Well, there are worse places apparently.

The Catholic Church, whose supposedly celibrate priests caused the greatest sex scandal in the history of the universe, now is set to bring us celebacy to all gays everywhere. Maybe when the ink dries on the last check the church has to write to a victim of the priests it covered up for, it will be time for them to give us advice about our sex lives. Until then, we would be better off listening to John Tesh.

Courage, forget about it, they should be calling it chutzpah.

[SacredCow]

9. "many men with same sex attraction lack hand-eye coordination"....

:wtf: Where in the hell did they get THAT statistic? Was Liberace's piano prowess the result of poor hand-eye coordination? I think not...

But yeah- the Catholics saying this is pretty ironic.

[zingaro]

10. "afflicted with the thorn of same-sex attraction"???

Wow. That infuriates me and makes me want to cry all at the same time. Fucktards.

[Morning Dew]

11. There should be a ministry for clergy afflicted with the thorn of pedophilia.

Under this Pope, the Catholic church is becoming totally irrelevant.

[bluedawg12]

12. Isn't it ironic? They focus on consenting sex between adults as THE sin

and sweep under the carpet, the sick predation of adults on kids? :puke:

[Chovexani]

13. Seems to me they need to offer some counseling

To their fellow kiddie diddlers in robes and collars instead of trying to fix grown ass people who aren't broken. :shrug:

[Jamastiene]

14. I know plenty of individual Catholics who are not homophopbic fuckheads.

Why can't their leadership get it right and stop with the hateful bullshit? I swear I think this whole extreme culture war push against gay people is about money and money only. It's a big fucking money maker and all they are thinking about is the profits they will make. They need to clean up their own very real problems with child molesters wearing the cloth before they cast stones at us.

John 8 : 7
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

Uh, Jesus said so. The anti-gay movement has nothing to do with morality, because the anti-gay movement is sinful in and of itself.

Fuck these Pharisees, hard, sideways.