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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:21 AM
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Anti-gay remark linked to killing
A fight sparked by an anti-gay comment led to the fatal stabbing of a South Side man over the weekend, prosecutors said Tuesday.

Michael Major, 25, and his wife were sitting in his car Saturday in the 7700 block of South Halsted Street when Major allegedly heckled Antonio Wright, 26, about his partner. Wright was heading to his car after getting off work at a nearby salon shortly after 9 p.m., employees at the salon said.

A fight broke out between the two men, and Major pulled a knife and stabbed Wright in the chest, said Cook County Assistant State's Atty. Shilpa Patel.

After the stabbing, Major tossed his keys to his wife and said, "I got faggot blood on me," before running down an alley, Patel said. Police caught and arrested Major that night.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0506220211jun22,1,2590327.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed&ctrack=2&cset=true
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:32 AM
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1. Another reason to oppose gun control
One of these days, one of these gay bashers is going to pick on the wrong gay person, and pay for it dearly.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:50 AM
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2. America has the highest murder rate of advanced nations
because we have the most guns of advanced nations. More guns=more murder. BTW,I would be satisfied with Switzerland's very tough gun laws.

<http://www.psrla.org/FS-Violence.htm>

# Firearm injuries are the second leading cause of injury death in the United States (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2002).

# In 2000 in the United States, 28,663 deaths occurred due to firearm injuries. Out of all firearm deaths, 16,586 (58%) were suicides and 10,801(38%) were homicides (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 2002).

# The annual cost of gun violence in America is estimated at $100 billion per year, including the cost of avoidance and preventative behaviors (Cook & Ludwig, 2000).

# In 1994 in the United States, based on an average medical cost of $17,000 per injury, the 134,445 gunshot injuries cost $2.3 billion in lifetime medical costs, of which $1.1 billion (49%) was paid by the U.S. taxpayers (Cook, Lawrence, & Ludwig, 1999).

# Approximately 35% of American households currently own a gun (Smith, 2001). Within homes with guns, 57% of all handguns are usually kept unlocked and 55% are usually kept loaded (Cook & Ludwig, 2000).

# Gun purchasers within the first week after purchase had a 57 times greater risk of firearm suicide than expected and the risk persisted- although at a lower level- over time (Romero & Wintemute, 2002).

# Between 1988 and 1997, 6,817 children 5-14 years of age died from firearms. Compared with children 5-14 years of age in other industrialized nations, the firearm-related homicide rate in the U.S. is 17 times higher, the firearm-related suicide rate is 10 times higher, and the unintentional firearm-related death rate is nine times higher (Miller, Azrael, & Hemenway, 2002).

# Supporting the hypothesis that firearm availability is associated with firearm-related deaths, individuals are more likely to die from suicide, homicide, and unintentional firearm injuries if they lived in states (or regions) with more, rather than fewer, guns (Miller, Azrael, & Hemenway, 2002).

# Children living in the five states with the most guns are 16 times more likely to die from unintentional firearm injury, seven times more likely to die from firearm suicide, and three times more likely to die from firearm homicide than children who lived in the five states with the fewest guns (Miller, Azrael, & Hemenway, 2002).

# In the U.S., between 1988 and 1997, over 45,000 women died of firearm violence. Among women 20 years of age and older, approximately 50% took their own lives with guns, 48% were shot and killed by others, and 2% were killed unintentionally with guns (Miller, Azrael, & Hemenway, 2002).
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:00 AM
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3. Control-control-control
Controlling death is not possible! The heralded medical profession in the US is responsible for thousands more deaths each year than guns (exception war) and a large number of them are children!
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:13 PM
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6. Why is our murder multiples time higher than the Eu, Australia
Canada, New Zealand, Japan, etc? The only real difference is America's absurdly lax gun regulations and even laxer enforcement.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:05 AM
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4. Do any of these talking points have anything to do with what I said?
The government does not get to decide if a citizen gets to defend himself.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:11 PM
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5. Every federal ruling says the 2nd amendment gives you no right
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 02:12 PM by billbuckhead
to own a gun. There has never been a gun law ruled unconstitutional because of the 2nd amendment.Never.
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ladeuxiemevoiture Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:30 PM
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8. So what?
That's not saying anything really.

You have no absolute rights, not even the right to speak, if, for example, that speech is yelling fire in a crowded theater, etc.

Same goes for every other right. Rights can be regulated.

Is there any US jurisdiction where guns are illegal, full stop?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:37 PM
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9. You cannot carry a gun into any federal building
It sure would be fair if we got the same legal protection from firearms that our elected officials and federal bureaucrats enjoy.

BTW, it sure was ironic that NRA whore Dickhead Cheney when he was meeting with the gunwacko faithful wouldn't let the gunners into the building with their guns to meet with the 30+ machine gun owning big Dickster.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:45 PM
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11. It sure is ironic that the places with gay marriage have strong gun laws
Massachussetts and Netherlands comes to mind immediately. Spain is working on it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:08 PM
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7. No Kidding
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:38 PM
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10. So you are saying one must own a gun to be gay
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 07:40 PM by billbuckhead
Have any "pink Pistols ever addressed any NRA conventions?
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:33 PM
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12. RIP, Antonio "Sydney" Wright . . .
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RIP, Antonio "Sydney" Wright . . .

And, may the alleged perpetrator, Michael Major, who was charged with first-degree murder . . . get all that he deserves under Illinois (and federal) law.




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AutumnMist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 05:37 PM
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13. My Father Owned a Handgun
through most of my childhood. It was never polished or trotted around like a trophy. My father was never flippant about owning it. It was kept in a locked safe at the top of his closet. We all knew it was there. We were taught extensively about the safety issues. The difference being is that we were taught about the pitfalls of violence and hatred. We knew not to start firing our mouths off at people just to get a reaction, that we could actually make a difference by speaking our minds in an intelligent manner. My father didn't hunt nor did he push gun laws. He was just a quiet, very responsible gun owner. I think thats possible in this day and age. Sadly many (not all) people don't think guns require any kind of responsibility anymore. Its just aim and fire. :( The fact that this man was killed because he was gay goes deeper than the fact that the other man had a weapon. He was also very ignorant and angry. The knife he used was an extension of the hatred he has been carrying around for years. Stopping the ignorance and hatred that is spread in our communities will help just as much as the banning of stupid use of weapons.
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