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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:45 PM
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The prop 8 decision has ruined my day
I was feeling really good this morning after the announcement about Sotomayor. Now I feel really down in the dumps. I know that this is ruining a lot more than people's days, but I feel like this has really kicked the shit out of me and it's like a part of me has died a little.

However, I do expect for this feeling to subside and turn to anger. We have to get reorganized and fight back.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:48 PM
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1. jesus nazis declare sharia law in california nt
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:49 PM
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2. Civil rights movements tend to be piecemeal with victories and losses.
The important thing is that momentum is going in our direction despite these occasional setbacks.

Keep your chin up and don't let the forces of hate get you down.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:51 PM
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3. Yes, what happened today was extremely depressing. It took any little flicker of joy that I had
today out of the day.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:53 PM
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5. I think it will happen ...I'm glad that they recognized the ones that
are married before the overturn...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:11 PM
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6. Yes, that is a huge plus..
jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Tue May-26-09 02:19 PM
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"Americablog: In the long run, we may have just scored a victory in California

In the long run, we may have just scored a victory in California
by John Aravosis (DC) on 5/26/2009 01:58:00 PM

Today the California Supreme Court upheld Prop 8, a ballot initiative that made it illegal to marry gay couples. But the court did something else. They let stand the marriages of 18,000 gay couples who tied the knot before Prop 8 became law. I believe that those marriages may, in the long run, make gay marriage inevitable in California.

Sexual orientation already enjoys equal status with gender and race in California discrimination law, and, as the LA Times notes, today's court decision doesn't change that:

Even with the court upholding Proposition 8, a key portion of the court's May 15, 2008, decision remains intact. Sexual orientation will continue to receive the strongest constitutional protection possible when California courts consider cases of alleged discrimination. The California Supreme Court is the only state high court in the nation to have elevated sexual orientation to the status of race and gender in weighing discrimination claims.

The fact that 18,000 gay marriages will remain on the books means that, eventually, another case will go to the California Supreme Court, questioning the constitutionality of laws banning gay marriage, and the court will have to consider why those 18,000 marriages how not destroyed traditional marriage as we know it. In other words, the ongoing existence of these marriages, with no demonstrable harm being caused by their existence, will call into question, if not outright destroy, the bigots' argument for why the state has an interest in banning gays from getting married. In more colloquial terms, no harm no foul.

Yes, the decision is disappointing, but it wasn't unexpected. What is now clear is that those 18,000 gay marriages will remain the law of the land in California. And those 18,000 gay couples should now be able to get California state benefits that straight married couples get. All of that will eventually, I believe, lead California courts to rule that the sky has not fallen - there is no valid reason for not protecting gay couples equally under the law.

And those 18,000 couples will help prove, in states across the land, that the existence of gay marriages do not somehow cause bigots like Tony Perkins and Jim Inhofe to suddenly want to get divorced and shack up with a guy."


http://www.americablog.com/2009/05/in-long-run-we-may-h...

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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:16 PM
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7. How about a move for our straight married allies to apply for annulments?
If I were straight, I wouldn't want a right that's denied to others.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:47 PM
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8. Same here.
Although I knew that this was the most likely result, I really hoped they would overturn it.

We do need to fight back.
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