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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 12:40 PM
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Victory! National Organization for Marriage Election Results 2010 Reaction
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NOM President Brian Brown is giddy that three judges were ousted by voters in Iowa for their decision to approve same-sex marriage, and discusses his plans to repeal same-sex marriage in New Hampshire, and ban it in Minnesota.

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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:12 PM
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1. Forces Outside the State Launched a Campaign Against the Judges
The outside effort to oust the judges probably was supported by murky foreign money from the GOP. Who knows. They won't tell.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:54 PM
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2. They're delusional if they think they can repeal gay marriage in NH
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 09:56 PM by ShadowLiberal
Not going to happen in New Hampshire for so many reasons.

-As I recall the bill passed both houses the legislature with comfortable margins (or at least one house), which would be a hell of a lot of seats they'd need to capture to get it repealed.

-Governor Lynch has said when some idiots were talking repeal before that he would veto it. Plus he'd have a lot of explaining to do to suddenly change his mind given how he vetoed an earlier version of gay marriage for not allowing priests to refuse to marry gays (a change that was only symbolic, seeing as priests/pastors/whatever are still legally allowed to refuse to marry two people for reasons like them being an interracial couple).

-Governor Lynch also isn't going to be an easy candidate to get rid of, seeing as he holds the record for the biggest win in a governor's race ever in the state's history. And even in this bad election year he still won by 7 points.

-They could try to get the state legislature (the same one that approved the ban) to approve of a people's veto election of gay marriage (or maybe not because it passed so long ago, I'm not certain), but they'd NEVER get enough votes for a people's veto of gay marriage. A people's veto need's a 2/3's majority to pass in New Hampshire, and next door neighbor Maine only got 53% of the voters to approve of a gay marriage veto by the people. Given how similar the two states are, there's next to nothing that could get 2/3's of NH voters to vote against gay marriage. Not even a perfect storm of circumstances causing the worst year for democrats in history could net them an extra 14% of the vote in favor of repealing gay marriage. And keep in mind, turnout in 09' in Maine, with no important offices up for reelection that year, got a higher turnout just for the gay marriage vote alone then Maine usually gets in midterm elections.

I don't have a clue about Minnesota's rules for ballot initiatives or whatever they could use to ban gay marriage there, but it's getting harder and harder to pass gay marriage bans these days, so I'd expect them to have an uphill battle. If it was easy to get a gay marriage ban on the ballot conservatives would have done it already in 04', 06', or 08' in my opinion.
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