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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:54 AM
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Take the GLBT History Month Challenge
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 08:56 AM by Smarmie Doofus
Damn . I only got 3 out of 9. And I was lucky to get that.

After you fail ( 5 or more out of 9 is PASS. Why 5 of 9 ? 'Cause I say so, that's why.) give me some ideas about how to mark GLBT History Month ( formerly known as "October") in the school where I teach.


http://www.glbthistorymonth.com/glbthistorymonth/2010/quiz00.cfm?Week=4

I warned you.
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Lunabelle Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:57 AM
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1. 6 out of 9
And 5 of those were just guesses!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:04 AM
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3. good god.
I need to hit the books.

Did you get the Tchaikovsky Q ?
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Lunabelle Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:11 PM
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27. Yes, I guessed
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 03:13 PM by Lunabelle
I had no idea about any of them; I may be psychic or just a really good guesser. The only one I knew was the question about Matthew Sheppard. The Laramie Project.
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Amimnoch Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:56 PM
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30. Heh, of the 3 I got right that was the only one that I didn't guess.
I didn't really know it, but using deductive reasoning, it would stand to reason that most parents in that era of Soviet Russia would encourage their children into civil service, as that was the best path to success at the time.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 03:28 PM
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44. I got that one - big Tchaikovsky fan here, and read a biography on him, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovskys-Last-Days-Documentary-Study/

In which it discusses the fact that he was unhappy in the civil sevice.

Other than that, I did horrible - 4 out of 9, two of which I guessed, lol. I'm not as gay as I thought. Maybe this makes me bi...?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:12 AM
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47. Now , how could anyone be "unhappy" in the civil service?
Don't believe everything you read.


And vice versa.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:03 AM
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2. I got 5! Yay, me...
n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:05 AM
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4. Ah. Ferrrchrissaaakes. That's it. Show me up. nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:06 AM
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5. gay or straight, most of those people I had never heard of
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:08 AM
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6. Thank you rurallib!!! THANK YOU!!!!!! nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:12 AM
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7. 6 -- i was conflicted about some of my wrong answers
& had enormous amounts of d'uh' all over me.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:15 AM
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9. Everyone is kicking my ass.
I wonder if we all get the same questions.

I'm supposed to be pretty good at this stuff.


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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 12:37 PM
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25. oops 33%
not so smart
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getting old in mke Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:14 AM
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8. 6 of 9
Though a couple were informed guesses ("Clearly not A or C...try B or D")
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:18 AM
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10. Ahhh.... shaddduppp.
:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:19 AM
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11. I got 3 out of 9
Back to Gay school for me!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:25 AM
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13. You're incorrigible.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-11 09:49 AM by Smarmie Doofus
But we're in the same ( slow) class.

So, you have to help me come up w. a project for GLBT History Month. Sorry. Them's the rules.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:41 AM
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18. How about the origins of LGBT History Month itself & how it came to be
In the United States & other Countries.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:51 AM
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20. Hmmm... I'm gonna let "that percolate down to the bedrock."
( John Huston in Chinatown). It'll "stay there, instead of evaporate like it does in most reservoirs."

Interesting idea. Let me mull.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:20 AM
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12. 5 out of 9, but I missed a question about a person I actually
have met and got a point for remembering how many seats in the Icelandic Parliament, which is not exactly a 'gay trivia' question. The one about Iceland, the way they asked the question is was more about Iceland than anything else. Sendak did not come out until 2008-3 years ago. So a person could have read up on him during the last primary season and the bio would not have included his sexuality. Not either question belongs on this test in the way it was asked. Sendak's story is more like news than history. Famous for decades on end, out for 36 months.
I got the Sendak question right, by the way. But then I had to google 'Sendak gay' to find that he in fact, did come out.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:33 AM
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15. What they consider "history" in general is *very* , let's say....
..... loosely connected to the general understanding of the meaning of that word.

Not so much on this test, but on other sites associated w. GLBT History Month, including the "31 GLBT Icons". I don't think of of Clay Aiken as "historic"; but he certainly is an "icon"
I tend to be more of a purist in this regard. History is history. Clay may be "history" some day ( he did break new ground) but that still remains to be seen.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 04:38 PM
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31. I got the Iceland question right
but only did so via multiple choice test taking skill, not real knowledge. Two choices had a total of 49 seats while 3 choices were unanimous. Thus I reasoned the real vote was likely unanimous and 49 seats.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:26 AM
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14. Seven out of nine - but I guessed at four of them
rather than knowing the answer (for some reason I do really well on m/c quizzes). I'm embarrassed to know so little.

What do you teach and what grade level?
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:41 AM
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19. Oh come on. No one could score 7, even w. great luck.
Tell the truth; you're among friends.

>>>>What do you teach and what grade level?

Good question. I teach in a Special Ed school, age levels 14 +, grade levels on paper 9 thru 12, but all of the kids are extremely academically delayed. So you're talking about reading G levels that top out at maybe 5 th or 6th grade with most of the school well below that.( including non-readers.)

That's always been a bit of a paradox in terms of bringing GLBT issues into the school. Some will say any discussion is over their heads. I don't agree. If the kids think, for example, that "gay"is a bad word ( and they almost all do) then there is a need for education on that topic.

Besides... it helps the adults on the premises to learn stuff they don't know either. Believe me, there's a lot of work to be done there.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:16 AM
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23. Seriously - I got lucky.
Plus I'm a history instructor. And my son is transgendered (and recently went back to uni), so I read a lot of different things to keep up with him!

But mostly just luck. I was more surprised than you when I got them right.

Sounds like a fascinating - and challenging - environment in which to teach; you have my admiration. I teach college, which has its own frustrations, but nothing like the challenges you face.

I don't think the discussion would be over their heads; my concern would be presenting it as something other than a 'special' topic. I understand why we create months for topics that are usually marginalized in academic discussion, but there is definitely a downside to that approach. 'Special', unfortunately, is easy to ignore once the 'month' is past, both for students and for teachers.
A better idea, in my opinion, is to incorporate the GLBT community, both historical and current, into discussion all the time . . . to make them part of the greater whole rather than something that is 'special'.

That said, it doesn't happen that way, so setting aside time is the next best alternative.

Perhaps if you start, as a lead-in, with an examination of how words become slurs? Get them to start questioning their own beliefs on a relatively nonthreatening level? Maybe talk about how contributions to society are not bound by sexuality or gender identification - but how society often constrains people because of those qualifiers?

I apologize - I'm not being very helpful here, I know. I'll keep thinking about it!
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:34 AM
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16. Knew 1 out of 9
What age group of kids do you work with? Subjects?

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:00 AM
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21. Gotta get that score up, OLTG.
In this day of teacher "accountability", they can fire my ass if you keep failing. ( Obama is for this.)



Re. the school:Special Ed HS; see my reply #19.


And you have to give me a project idea. Sorry. You play, you pay.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:38 AM
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24. Fortunatly I test well
So Obama will never know how much I guessed correctly.B-)

Perhaps the Movie "Bruno" would be a good springboard.

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Rhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:35 AM
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17. 67% ! Yay!!!
Wish i could contribute some ideas about what you wouldn;t get your head bitten off over when teaching minors...
maybe a screening of "The Celluloid Closet" or "Before Stonewall"???
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 10:04 AM
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22. Good job. I don't think those films would really do it.
A little esoteric for my kids' taste and awareness level. ( See reply 19)

We need to go more *concrete*.

But keep thinkin' on it.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 01:15 PM
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26. 3 out of 9 for me too
I do call foul though as being a gay history quiz it was quite arts centered.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:39 PM
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34. Right. I though it was going to be about Plato and ...
... Alexander the (maybe not so) Great.

What a dirty trick.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:36 PM
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28. 5, but I did some guessing. (n/t)
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:45 PM
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35. Stop trying to make me feel better.
And give me an idea for a project.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 03:48 PM
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29. 5 out of 9
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:46 PM
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36. Low pass.
But better than I did.
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 05:27 PM
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32. 7 out of 9
I got lucky, I guessed on one of them.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:47 PM
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37. You guessed on *one*?
I guessed on *eight*.

The only one I was really sure about was the Mathew Shepard question.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 05:46 PM
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33. Woohoo! 6 of 9!
That's a gentleman's "D" if I'm not mistaken.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 08:51 PM
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38. I'll be applying a "curve" to the test.
The highest known score was a 7.... which will now become a 9/9.

Ergo ,your final score is......#$$$$%%&&&&%%^$@!*.... 8/9.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-11 09:43 PM
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39. To be fair, I had to guess on most.
Like what was the vote? I remembered that it was unanimous, but had to guess still.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-11 02:57 AM
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52. Oh and BTW:
Curving the test means that you're going to apply a normal distribution curve, not change the total it's out of.

With a curve, the highest 2.2% gets an A, the next 13.6% get a B, 68.2% get a C, then it reverses--13.6% get a D, and the bottom 2.2% get an F regardless of actual percentage.

I had a physics prof who let the class decide if tests would be grades on a curve, and despite this being explained, the majority always voted to do it and got pissed off when they got an F despite scoring 76%. I've never gotten so many Cs in my life as in that class and it's been a pet-peeve of mine ever since whenever people misuse "grading on a curve" to mean "bumping everyone's score up."
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 09:56 AM
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40. Couple more project thoughts
Baron Von Steuben and Gays in the Continental Army as compared to current repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Could also highlight recent cases of parents refusing to tell sex/gender of child. And why does society have such a reaction to not knowing the gender of a 3mo old?

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 03:07 PM
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42. Von Steuben vs. DADT is inspired stuff.
Might be more suitable for a general ed HS though.


Keep 'em coming.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 10:09 AM
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41. I think I got 4 out of 9...
Most of these people I don't know who they are!
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 03:08 PM
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43. Me neither. But I do now.
You're within striking distance.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-11 10:02 PM
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45. Eight out of nine!
but I was just guessing on most of them.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 08:06 AM
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46. !$%@@!!*&^???**$%# !!!! ?
There's gonna be an investigation.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-11 11:31 AM
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48. I just missed the one about which David Sedaris book
went to no. 1 on the NYT bestseller list. I chose "Me Talk Pretty One Day"--wrong answer. Otherwise I made intelligent guesses.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 10:51 PM
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51. I have Holidays on Ice.
Six stories. Paperback version.

It's been staring at me plaintively from my bookcase for about 5 years.


I don't get him.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 07:21 PM
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49. I got 6 out of 9!
I took it on a lark, just wanted to see what I knew and learn what I did not. I guessed on a few and was able to get them right but not too bad for a score. :-)
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 10:45 PM
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50. I just did a redo.
Let's put it this way: 6/9 is pretty friggin good.
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