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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:24 AM
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Christian Pastor Attacks Gay Couple To Keep Them From Church
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 11:32 AM by NorthCarolina
by David Badash
for The New Civil Rights Movement

A gay Tennessee couple was reportedly attacked — physically and verbally assaulted — by a Christian Pastor and his deacons to prevent the same-​sex couple from entering the Pastor’s church. Sadly, the pastor is the father of one of the two members of the gay couple. Also sadly, the church members and bystanders did not lift a finger to help the couple or to stop church leaders from perpetrating the crime. Further, initially, local authorities refused to allow the couple to file charges.



More at Link: http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/hate-crime-christian-pastor-attacks-gay-couple-to-keep-them-from-church/politics/2011/10/03/27804

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:36 AM
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1. I'd say "hey daddy, what part of WHOSOEVER don't you get, hypocrite!"
and if he didn't respect that, I'd turn and never speak to him until he apologized. Good on these two young men! Daddy didn't want to have his gay son and partner there showing him his own inability to be like Christ.

And it's stories like this that prove that many that go to church don't care to follow Christ's teaching of loving others as you love yourself. I wish I could give a big hug to these two for giving that entire church a lesson about disrespecting God's call that whosoever believes will be with him.

:applause:


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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:37 AM
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2. "He who troubleth his own House shall inherit the Wind,
and the fool shall be servant to the wise at heart.”

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 02:46 PM
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15. truly. his heart must hurt but someday that man will be sorry. I will
be their granny. I wish I was.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:38 AM
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3. I wonder what the missing bit of the video is...
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 11:42 AM by idiotgardener
where it says "the pastor demanded we... (silence)"

Also, that is the second time today I've seen the use of "sick" instead of "sic" in "professional journalism." Our journalists are ignorant.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:39 AM
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4. There's a typo in the headline. There was no 'Christian' pastor there.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:40 AM
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5. I was about to say.
Jesus would be throwing up in a bucket.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:43 AM
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7. And weeping.
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 11:43 AM by Ken Burch
...then, He'd kick that preacher to the curb.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:46 AM
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8. Who owns the name (Christian)?
Is it the people who act in a way that Jesus would have approved of?

Or is it those in officially recognized churches? (And on the news, and in government...)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:57 AM
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10. Yes he was. No true Scotsman.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:51 PM
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22. Oh, yes he was. That IS Christianity as practiced in most of the US.
Christians can't disown him, no matter how much they want to.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 01:20 PM
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26. Not all sects of Christianity detest homosexuals. Some denominations actually invite them in.
Remember this?

http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-12-02/news/17456356_1_ad-networks-response-major-networks

A new national television commercial promoting the United Church of Christ says that "Jesus didn't turn people away," but two major networks have turned away the ad itself, saying it violates their policy of airing commercials on hot button topics -- such as tolerance toward gays and lesbians.

CBS and NBC rejected the 30-second ad, which depicts a pair of stern bouncers barring people of various ethnic types as well as a female -- perhaps lesbian -- couple from entering a fictitious church.

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:42 AM
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6. And the quote from Scripture they'd use to justify this would be...?
:eyes:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 03:24 PM
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16. Probably something like ...
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 11:52 AM
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21. That is not a teaching of Jesus Christ. So it has no basis in 'Christianity.'
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:53 PM
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24. Nor are the 10 Commandments. They have 'no basis' in Christianity?
??
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 01:14 PM
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25. No, actually the 10 commandments aren't a part of it either. Jesus' commandments
pretty much eliminates a need to enumerate specifics.

"Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord
thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul,
and with all thy mind. This is the first and great
commandment." (Matthew 22:37-38 KJV)
"And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy
neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang
all the law and the prophets. (Matthew 22:39-40 KJV)


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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 01:28 PM
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27. ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT.
All remotely orthodox Christians believe that the entire Bible is God's word.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 01:47 PM
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28. Funny, there are many 'Christian' churches that focus on The New Convenant.
With the coming of Christ, God has established a new covenant with mankind (Jeremiah 31:31-34, Luke 22:20, 1 Corinthians 11:25, Hebrews 8:8-13, 9:11-15). Jesus and His apostles gave us a radically new understanding of the true intent of the Old Testament Law; they brought a new era of the rule of love for all people and spiritual truth instead of rule by law (Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34-35, Ephesians 2:14-18).

The teachings of Jesus, the Council of Jerusalem, and other New Testament teachings (John 1:16-17, Acts 13:39, Romans 2:25-29, 8:1-4, 1 Corinthians 9:19-21, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:15) make it clear that Christians are not required to follow the Old Testament rules about crimes and punishments, warfare, slavery, diet, circumcision, sacrifice, feast days, Sabbath observance, ritual cleanness, etc.

Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance (2 Timothy 3:16-17). But when there seems to be a conflict between Old Testament laws and New Testament principles, we must follow the New Testament because it represents the most recent and most perfect revelation from God (Hebrews 8:13, 2 Corinthians 3:1-18, Galatians 2:15-20).

http://www.twopaths.com/faq_OldTestamentLaw.htm
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 02:34 PM
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29. And they may be much better churches than the standard ones but...
They are rare birds indeed if they don't consider the OT to be divinely inspired.

"Christians still look to the Old Testament scripture for moral and spiritual guidance"

The most prominent and vocal churches on the scene today can't STOP talking about the OT and they tend to take it very literally.

---------

Look, you may be a fine, sensible person attending a fine, sensible gathering of believers-in-Jesus.

But the name Christian refers to roughly two billion adherents worldwide, the vast majority of whom subscribe to the notion that the Old Testament is just as real -- and just as operative -- as the new.

So either get the other kind of Christians to take the extraneous garbage out of their holy book or think of another name to call your more caring and compassionate group.

Till then you can expect to be tarred with the same broad brush as those who so clearly deserve it.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:55 AM
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9. Since christians believe "the Gay" is a result of nurture and not nature,
I can't help but wonder how this 'pastor' would explain his son's sexual orientation.
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idiotgardener Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 01:15 PM
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12. I've wondered about that too.
And it doesn't matter if he thinks it's nature or nurture – either way, it comes from the parents!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:27 PM
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11. Such a sad story.
Recommended.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 01:48 PM
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13. A good friend of mine in rural Tennessee had the same thing happen
His preacher daddy tried to beat the gay out of him, kicked him out of the church, etc.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 01:55 PM
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14. How very Christian of them.
:sarcasm:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 03:43 PM
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17. Unfortunately, it is!
See post 16.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:35 PM
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18. David and Jonathan, who loved each other so much?????
:shrug:

That Jonathan increased???
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 12:52 PM
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23. No sarcasm smiley necessary.
nt
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 04:13 PM
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30. Isn't it, though?
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 09:49 AM
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19. No doubt, the divorce situation stems from the father's homophobia...nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 10:27 AM
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20. ...and tendency to extreme violence.
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