Obama 'still working' on views of gay marriage

[MNBrewer]

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President Barack Obama says he is "still working" on his views of gay marriage.

Obama's comments come one year after he told liberal bloggers that his views on gay marriage were "evolving." He supports civil unions, but has thus far not backed same-sex marriage.

During an interview with ABC News on Monday, Obama said gay couples should, at a minimum, have strong civil unions. But he stopped short of backing gay marriage.

I'm still working on whether I'll vote for his reelection.

[Brickbat]

1. Heh. Well said.

K&R.

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Meaning his bosses still haven't told him what he can say.

[RZM]

3. I predict he'll be 'working' on them until the first post-election strategy sessions

Then he'll finally make a decision whether or not to publicly back marriage equality in his second term. If I had to bet, I'd say he probably will, though he probably wouldn't announce that until later on in that term. And even then, I'm not so sure . . . I'd say it's 55-45 that he comes out in favor before his second term ends.

[MNBrewer]

4. Assuming that Obama will be renominated

I hope he's the last candidate we have to deal with who has anti-marriage viewpoints.

[RZM]

5. I see no indication that he won't be renominated

Whether he'll be re-elected is another story. I think he will, but it's going to be a lot closer than last time.

What he does vis-a-vis this issue will probably be very influential to future positions that Democrats take in public. If he waffles or punts (which I gave a 45 percent chance of), I don't know. If he comes out strongly in favor, maybe it will make its way into the platform.

[MNBrewer]

8. Yes, I am assuming that he will be renominated.

[BR_Parkway]

21. At least on the Dem side, the GOP nominees are all trying to out do each other

on who would re-institute DADT currently - and repealing that has huge support compared to marriage equality

So this will continue to be a political football for several more cycles at least (hell, they still want to repeal Roe v Wade somehow)

[NorthCarolina]

15. You are far more optimistic than myself.

I predict that following the election, assuming he is reelected of course, the gay community will once again be shoved back in the closet. Progressive rhetoric is purely for campaigning only, not governing.

[RZM]

16. Had a conversation with a family member about this the other day

That family member has been heavily involved on the funding end of GLBT activism for a long time.

There's nobody I trust more on these things. He said: 'we're not just at the beginning of the end, we're actually at the end of the end.'

I was actually very surprised to hear him say that, because he's never struck me as overly optimistic about this stuff. So I do think that's a good sign. Obama's important, but I can also envisage a scenario where good things happen without him necessarily taking a leading role.

[William769]

6. This thread is very misleading. It's also on the front page.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5013343

Recommended.

[MNBrewer]

9. Which thread is misleading?

I can't tell based on your post which thread you're talking about.

[William769]

11. The one thats linked in my post.

[MNBrewer]

12. ah, yes, I agree with you

Calling for the repeal of DOMA is not the same thing as supporting the right to marriage.

[xchrom]

7. ...

:eyes: would he need to evolve on the Loving case or any inter-racial marriage -- like his parents?

[MNBrewer]

10. THey should have had a strong civil union

but marriage?!?!

God's in the mix, after all.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. He's just a bag of second hand prejudices and religious jargon

The man is laughable on this issue, a satire of a prude trying not to say the vile words he's really thinking.

[MNBrewer]

14. He's definitely not saying what he's really thinking

I think he actually IS in favor of marriage equality, but he's even MORE in favor of political expediency.

[dbackjon]

17. Either you are for full equality for all Americans, or you are a fucking bigot.

No middle ground.

[_ed_]

23. YES!

Exactly. Bigotry is bigotry.

[Vanje]

18. #%^ nt

[William769]

19. Come on say what you really mean!

I know, I know, I've had numerous posts deleted also. :hi:

[Vanje]

20. It had something to do with.......

.......racism

[queerart]

22. You Must Hate America.....

... and 3 legged soft fluffy bunnies to to dare share this article right before/during/after/in the future/in this millennium of an election!


How Very Dare Anyone Quote Verbatim The Exact Words He Said, Especially When It Makes A Demigod Look... Well... A 1/4 Down The Demi Scale On The List Of Gods.....


You probably also hate apple pie, the flag, chicken noodle soup, angora sweaters, American flag lapel pins, freedom fries, Aunt Fanny's apricot preserves, and warm yummy chocolate chunk cookies you commie, tree hugging, rainbow farting unicorn wanting, equal rights deserving, mamby pamby......


Why don't you use this tactic on the Gay Marriage debate in other countries you America hater like Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, South Africa, and Sweden... and see what will happen to you....


Oh wait... never mind.......

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QQQ (Quick Quiz Queers)

During the last Presidential season...... One candidate openly met with A Queer group, and took buckets of shit for it... the other sent his wife to meet with an opposing Queer group , as he wouldn't..... Test You Fierce Gayness, As Can You Name The Two Candidates?


and here's a little tid bit for any (I think they called it) "Bitchy Guys Who Won't STFU:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110924145713AAVwV5m (ain't those words by someone straight, Fierce?)
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Some will hate you publicly... while others smile, and hate you privately..... but never confuse the fact, that both groups despise you with equal intensity....

Bigotry is a lifestyle choice…..