This is what I was attempting to get at in my previous threads about youth coming out

[dsc]

http://gay.americablog.com/2011/11/theyre-alive.html

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2011/11/02/lgbt-groups-withhold-support-from-education-bill/

Several LGBT organizations say they “do not support” the Senate version of education reform legislation as it currently stands due to the lack of protections for LGBT students and what they say is a rollback of federal accountability for schools.

In a letter dated Nov. 1, a group of eight LGBT organizations wrote to leaders on the Senate Health, Education, Labor & Pensions Committee to express “grave concerns” about the Elementary & Secondary Education reauthorization bill and to withhold support from the bill.

“As legal and advocacy organizations committed to ensuring that students, as well as those who are perceived to be LGBT, have access to an education unhindered by discrimination and harassment, we are writing to express our grave concerns with the Elementary and Secondary Education Reauthorization Act of 2011, which we do not support in its current form,” the letter states.

The Senate HELP Committee passed the ESEA reauthorization bill on Oct. 20 with a bipartisan vote of 15-7. However, despite calls from LGBT advocates, measures providing explicit protections for LGBT students known as the Student Non-Discrimination Act and the Safe Schools Improvement Act weren’t included in the larger bill.

The letter has eight co-signers: the American Civil Liberties Union, the Family Equality Council, Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, Lambda Legal, the National Black Justice Coalition, the National Center for Lesbian Rights, the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force Action Fund and PFLAG National. The Human Rights Campaign and the Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network are not among the co-signers.

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I am a member of many of these groups and they did pretty much nothing toward telling us to lobby are Senators prior to this vote. As adults we owe it to these kids to do a better job of lobbying upon their behalf. After all, they can't vote, we can.

[William769]

1. Sorry, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Example, we have gun laws guess what? People still get shot and or killed with guns.

What coming out does do is give one empowerment it also as I stated before gives emancipation from oppression plus it gives pride instead of shame.

The title of your last OP was right on the money "OK I think I am a bad gay for asking this, but are gays coming out too young?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=187587&mesg_id=187587

I myself will never ever under any circumstance tell anyone to stay in that dark dank oppressed closet for any reason.



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[closeupready]

2. I agree with William. No offense, dsc, but as before, you are employing no logic

from what I can see. I have no doubt you mean well, but you are letting your emotions get in the way. If not, I would again politely ask you to flesh out your ideas so that maybe we can find common ground and figure out where the disconnect is. Much appreciated.

[Bluenorthwest]

3. What do you see as the connection? Your other post to this?

The world is scary so no one should come out until they can afford personal security? Sorry, but I see no logical connection between this and what you previously wrote. At all. None.

[dsc]

4. my point is this

check your email in the days before that vote (assuming that you are on the HRC mail list) and count how many emails you got from them on this issue, or how about equality of your state. In my case it was a big fast zero. Compare that to DADT which affected adults. Or hate crimes which largely affect adults.

[MNBrewer]

5. HRC = almost useless

What do we want?

Gay Rights?

When do we want it?

As soon as the Democrats are able to work it into the schedule! No Hurry! We don't want to be a bother.