Reggie White, homophobe, now shoveling coal in hell. . .

[Brian_Expat]

A message from God? He was struck down without warning!

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/sports/football/26cnd-white.html

[MissBrooks]

1. Amazing...

I'm horrified that you would laugh at someone's death.

[Brian_Expat]

5. I'm not laughing

Just saying he got his karmic payback.

He sent lots of gay kids to death by suicide over the vicious agenda he foisted.

[Ian David]

9. It was Fred Phelps that set the tone for these things

Heck, we can give as good as we get:

From Fred Phelps, of Westboro Baptist Church:

Perpetual Gospel Memorial to Matthew Shepard

Matthew Shepard has been in hell for 2268 days.
Eternity - 2268 days = Eternity

When Matthew Shepard died on October 12, 1998, every pervert in this country (from Bill Clinton on down) used his death as a soap box to promote so-called "gay rights." These same perverts ignored the vicious murder of 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising by two fags. In religious protest of this, WBC picketed the funeral of Matthew Shepard, to inject a little truth and sanity into the irrational orgy of lies consuming this world. And WBC held a memorial service for Jesse Dirkhising at his lonely grave. WBC does not support the murder of Matthew Shepard: "thou shalt not kill." Unless his killers repent, they will receive the same sentence that Matthew Shepard received - eternal fire. However, the truth about Matthew Shepard needs to be known. He lived a Satanic lifestyle. He got himself killed trolling for anonymous homosexual sex in a bar at midnight. Unless he repented in the final hours of his life (not likely since God had given him up! - Romans 1), He is in hell. He will be in hell for all eternity, "where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:44. For each day that passes, he has only eternity to look forward to. All the candlelight vigils, all the tributes, all the acts of Congress, all the rulings by the Supreme Court of the United States, will not shorten his sentence by so much as one day. And all the riches of the world will not buy him one drop of water to cool his tongue.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/memorial.html


Fred Phelps even protest at the funeral of Fred Rogers. That's right, THE Fred Rogers, as in Mister Rogers' Neighborhood:

Pittsburgh bids farewell to Fred Rogers with moving public tribute
Sunday, May 04, 2003
By Barbara Vancheri and Rob Owen, Post-Gazette Staff Writers
Fred Rogers would have loved it.

A group of about a half dozen members of an anti-gay organization gathered at the intersection of Penn Avenue and Sixth Street to protest what they called Rogers' failure to condemn homosexuality. The group, which included an 8-year-old girl, held signs expressing their hatred of gays and, while standing on a torn American flag, their hatred of America.

They were met by about 150 counter-demonstrators, members of gay rights and peace groups, who marched along the sidewalks and sang songs from Rogers' program while holding signs calling for love and tolerance. While there were some heated exchanges, there were no arrests either there or at three other sites -- the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the University of Pittsburgh and Chatham College.

The anti-gay group, members of the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas, has a history of picketing at funerals of gays and those they accuse of being supportive of gays. It is led by Fred Phelps, a self-proclaimed minister and disbarred attorney. He was not present at the demonstration yesterday.

The protesters were no match for the thankful sentiments, solemn and cheerful music and occasional bouts of hearty laughter inside Heinz Hall.

http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20030504rogers0504p1.asp

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So yeah, when one of those monsters die, we should let them see how it feels to be on the other receiving side.

[Spinzonner]

2. Maybe he was just sending him to a re-education camp

[Ian David]

3. Good riddance to him

From the New York Times:

An ordained minister and a pastor of a church in Knoxville, Tenn., during his playing days, White was known for working with inner-city young people. But he also became a figure of controversy for derogatory remarks concerning homosexuality in a speech to the Wisconsin Legislature in 1998.
<SNIP>
White created a stir in March 1998 with a speech to the Wisconsin State Assembly in which he referred to homosexuality as "one of the biggest sins in the Bible" and used ethnic stereotypes for blacks and whites.

At the time, White, considering retirement, was on a list of candidates for CBS's N.F.L. studio show, but he did not get the job.

White's wife, Sara, charged that CBS had "wimped out" because of pressure from homosexual groups, but a CBS spokeswoman said that the network "never had a finalized agreement" with White and that the decision not to hire him was not "influenced by outside groups."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/26/sports/football/26cnd-white.html?oref=login

[greenman3610]

4. died of a 'respiratory ailment"?

common euphemism for aids.

[Brian_Expat]

6. Wowowowow

Good catch.

Do you think he "doth protesteth too much?"

[Moloch]

8. Is it really?

I know that respiratory ailments are common to AIDS sufferers, but do you think Mr. White had AIDS?

The Irony.

Perhaps from sharing needles to use steroids?

[Streetdoc270]

13. Sleep Apnea

Its not an ailment as such but a condition brought on usually by being overweight or larger. The weight of the body closes the airway and can lead to death. Common warning signs are excessive snoring, and waking up tired.

[karl meltdown]

7. HE WAS a...

racist, homophobe, spammer, but hey it could have been worse he could have been a freeper?

[Ian David]

11. He was a spammer???

Oh, he should go to hell for the spamming alone!

[brainshrub]

12. A freeper is a type of racist homophobe.

All freepers are not racist homophobes. But where do you think this guy would have felt more at home: here or on FreeRepublic?

[saltpoint]

10. Reggie White was no big picture guy.

He and his wife for a while led annual "Trip(s) to the Holy Land with Reggie and What's-Her-Name White" for people who wanted a coloring book caption tour of Bethlehem, I guess so they could say they walked in the steps of Jesus with a Green Bay Packers heavyweight.

There is resentment among some who saw White as the ultimate manipulator of dumbed-down public sentimentality: red state voters who like their football players big and tough and their Christianity hopelessly stupid.

When Reggie White was reducing a world faith to a carnival sideshow, and especially when he was debasing gay men and lesbians, very few mainstream Christians objected. Their voices were silent.

Now in death, the man is back in the news, and those resentments -- aimed mostly at White but some at those trembling mainstreamers whose silence granted consent for his bigotry -- are recalled.

[Joy Anne]

14. how much time would it take?

As a mainstream Christian (according to me, if not to CBS et al.), I personally cannot be responsible for registering objections to every fruitcake, psychotic, and ditz who claims to represent Jesus while demonstrating a basic ignorance of Jesus' life and teachings.

Even more, I can't be responsible for getting my objections published. I've had a lot of straight political letters to the editor published, but not any of my religious-political letters.

[Ian David]

15. None of us are faulting you, Joy Anne

[saltpoint]

16. Hi, Joy Anne.

If you're on DU, you probably aren't one of the guilty ones. My point about the silence of the mainstreamers holds, though, doesn't it? When the right-wing loonies start baying at the moon, no voice rises to offer challenge or clarification.

It's not MY job either -- I'm not even a Christian -- so let's agree that it's not a division-of-labor issue. It's a matter of who lays the strongest claim to a world faith, and whose vision and version will bring the most good.

If the mainstream congregations of Christianity want their damned faith back, they are going to have to wrestle people even dumber than Reggie White to get it. They have to start by objecting to its betrayal by the right wiing.

[Malikshah]

17. Great statement-- true to form

This is the kind of statement that needs to be made to those who ask the same of every last Muslim on earth...

Reason I bring it up is that I'm asked this same question when I lecture on Islam and the Middle East. For some reason, folks in the US want an apology from each of the 1 billion plus Muslims in the world.

It's not going to happen. It shouldn't be expected of every Christian, Jewish person, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc.

[Ian David]

18. For gays, Islam is worse than Christianity

I have tried my darnedest to find even ONE Muslim Imam who is not anti-gay.

I have contacted the leaders of the largest groups for gay Muslims, and none of them can name even ONE Muslim cleric that accepts gay people.

At least Christianity has some priests and ministers and reverends and even bishops and cardinals that are gay-friendly.

Islam, apparently has NONE.

If you find one, please let me know.

[saltpoint]

19. Hi, Ian.

You're right -- modern-day imams are not very accepting of gay and lesbian people.

What's interesting is that homosexuality was a fairly high profile activity in that culture in times past -- from ancient settlements running all the way through the Ottoman Empire.

Shame on these modern-day censors and wimps who claim to speak for their Allah when they can't even acknowledge their own peckers.

[Malikshah]

20. You won't these days

but you'll find truckloads of works, poetry and the like extolling the pleasures of beardless boys.

Wine and beardless boys appeared to be a big think in the medieval period for some.

For today's world, though-- nope.

As a whole-- most organized religion is against it--such is life. Not tilting at those windmills.

My post, however, was referring to the fact that someone didn't wish to have to speak for all of Christianity-- I was simply stating that the same holds true for Muslims speaking for all of Islam-- a fact that appears to have been missed by many I've talked to.
:)