is falun gong and practises different from fundies? NO!

[xchrom]

i went looking for information re: the falun dafa and falun gong practise in light of the excitement it's been causing and found this.

now i'm sure some vague and not so vague adherents are going to show up and tell me how this is wrong.

but this is pretty fucking blatant and black and white.

just like christian fundies or any other fundies it's not falun practioners who would hurt us -- but the gods -- but we are still destroyed.

this creep even goes so far as to point out that the ancient greeks were destroyed because of their ''practises''.

puts a different light on the falun for me.



http://faluncanada.net/library/english/switzerland/switzerland1998.htm

Falun Buddha Fa

 

 

Teaching the Fa at the Conference in Switzerland

(September 4–5, 1998, Geneva)



Question: Why is homosexuality considered immoral?

Teacher: Think about it, everyone: Is homosexuality human behavior? Heaven created man and woman. What was the purpose? To procreate future generations. A man being with a man, or a woman with a woman—it doesn’t take much thought to know whether that’s right or wrong. When minor things are done incorrectly, a person is said to be wrong. When major things are done incorrectly, it’s a case of people no longer having the moral code of human beings, and then they are unworthy of being human.

Let me tell you why today’s society has become how it is. It results from there not being an upright Fa to keep human beings in check. This Dafa is taught right in the most chaotic environment, at a time when no religion can save people, and where the circumstance is that no god takes interest in people anymore. The Fa is almighty. The best time periods wouldn’t require such a great Fa to be taught. Only in the worst time periods can the power of the Fa manifest. There are other reasons, too.

 

Question: Why is it that homosexuals are considered bad people?

Teacher: Let me tell you, if I weren’t teaching this Fa today, gods’ first target of annihilation would be homosexuals. It’s not me who would destroy them, but gods. You know that homosexuals have found legitimacy in that homosexuality was around back in the culture of ancient Greece. Yes, there was a similar phenomenon in ancient Greek culture. And do you know why ancient Greek culture is no more? Why are the ancient Greeks gone? Because they had degenerated to that extent, and so they were destroyed.

When gods created man they prescribed standards for human behavior and living. When human beings overstep those boundaries, they are no longer called human beings, though they still assume the outer appearance of a human. So gods can’t tolerate their existence and will destroy them. Do you know why wars, epidemics, and natural and man-made disasters happen in this world? They’re precisely because human beings have karma, and those events exist to remove it. No matter how wonderful a time period may be in the future, there will still be wars, epidemics, and natural and man-made disasters on earth. They are a way of eliminating karma for people. Some people who have sinned can have their karma eliminated through the death of the flesh body and suffering, and then they’ll be free of that karma when they reincarnate. Their lives don’t really die and they reincarnate again. But the karma that some people have accrued is too much, in which case the fundamental elements of their existence will be implicated and destroyed. Homosexuals not only violate the standards that gods set for mankind, but also damage human society’s moral code. In particular, the impression it gives children will turn future societies into something demonic. That’s the issue. That kind of destruction, however, isn’t just about disappearing after they’re annihilated. That person is annihilated layer after layer at a rate that seems pretty rapid to us, but in fact it’s extremely slow in that time field. Over and over again, one is annihilated in an extremely painful way. It’s terribly frightening. A person should live in an upright manner, living honorably like a human being. He shouldn’t indulge his demon-nature and do whatever he likes.

[donco6]

1. "And now we will throw the virgin in the volcano. . . "

Jeez - these people make fundies look GOOD.

[xchrom]

2. lol -- the poor virgins!

[donco6]

4. But actually, you're right - a lot of fundies would agree.

Not all of them, but a "healthy" segment (for lack of a better term). I think of Paul Cameron types - and some of the more backwoodsy churches.

I used to be a fundie, but the churches I went to just weren't political, and never fell into this "God is punishing us because of . . . what THEY'RE doing!" trap.

[Bellamia]

3. Huh ???

New to me, this falun dafa stuff........I did like this one phrase, "but I am your master after all, and will save you to a high realm." Could have been said by GWB, another of the world's great cultists.

[xchrom]

6. lol -- gwb = cultist!

i think you just got george excited!

the gospel according to george!

''i'm the decider -- you will have no other deciders before me''

[Oversea Visitor]

5. Now you understand

Why the China goverment dont let them run wild.

[megatherium]

7. as an American, I believe in freedom of religion.

I believe the Chinese authorities are too repressive of religions that would be little threat if ignored. But I understand the Chinese concern about sects, given their terrible history of civil wars triggered by sects (the Taiping Rebellion, for example).

[megatherium]

8. The Greek culture was actually destroyed by Christianity not by

homosexuality. (But it was revived in the Renaissance, and modern culture owes a tremendous amount to the ancient Greek culture. Our science and especially our mathematics come from the Greeks.)

[xchrom]

9. tell falun dafa --- falun gong

fundies of all stripes hate history -- and these are another bunch who hate history.

just another crew of folk -- who may be persecuted on the one hand -- conceal a whole lot of hate on the other.

and the media are using them right now to propagandize to the public that the chinese government doesn't permit freedom of religion.

p.s. greek history is one of my fav areas of interest.

[readmoreoften]

10. there went my sympathy for the falun gong

no more sympathy for fundies, thank you.

should they be tortured, no. but they've just proved themselves to be another idiot cult.

[sui generis]

11. and isn't their "living buddha", able to teleport by divine powers

living between several multi-million dollar homes or some such?

I hate hypocrisy - as far as I'm concerned if there were gods, it would appear that followers of Fallen Dung are being punished . . .

I'll bet you the gods are gay, and they are NOT amused.

[xchrom]

12. lol -- of course the gods are gay!

those god palaces in the sky are dead give-aways.