The Gay Republican: Oxymoron, or Just Moron?

[kweerwolf]

Given that it's spring of an election year, one of the most beloved of all Republican rites is in full bloom: gay bashing. It's not enough that the state republican parties have specifically told gay men and women they are not welcome in the party, or that one by one, they are trying to amend state constitutions to prohibit gay marriage (which in most of these states is already banned by law); U.S. Senate Republicans have announced that they are planning, once more, to argue the need for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

This is a debate more urgent, they suggest, than the war in Iraq, immigration, education, or terrorism.

What's different this year is that it's not just the right-wing Republicans doing the bashing. The latest news is that the most gay-friendly of Republicans, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, is campaigning for arch-homophobes Senator Rick Santorum and Iowa's gubernatorial candidate Jim Nussle. In fact, the few non-right wing Republicans left in the party are all out on the campaign trail, avidly supporting the most extreme anti-gay rhetoric of their fellow party members.

So once more, in response to the new gay bashing, comes the old question: Why would any gay man or woman belong to a party that has stated, over and over, as clearly as can be, without equivocation, that he or she is not welcome?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gene-stone/the-gay-republican-oxymo_b_19719.html

[babylonsister]

1. This makes me ill in that people can turn on a dime like that.

Last I checked gays and lesbians were people, too. This, to me, is worse than the war cry against illegal 'aliens'. So much bias, where does anyone find the time?

[Ecumenist]

2. CA-RAE-ZEE!!

It's makes as much sense as the african american auxiliary of the ku klux klan. I don't get it and never will.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

3. My best friend is lesbian . . .

. . . she sure as hell doesn't get it either. But then, she's the smartest, kindest person I ever met.

To answer your question, Kweerwolf, they've gotta be morans. All 35 of them! ;)

[LiberalVoice]

4. You know they're complete idiots when repugs wont take their money.

I mean really. Repugs, not taking money from someone? Thats the highest form of disrespect they know.

[Botany]

5. Dupe

[Botany]

6. hmmmmm

[Smarmie Doofus]

12. Hmmm.... who's the second from top?

[Botany]

14. Rep David Drier

lives with another man.

[Kerrytravelers]

20. And the man he lives with works for him and is one of the highest

paid staffers in DC.

Hummm...........

Drier's district is right next to me. The talk has been around for years. Russ Warner is running against him this year. Warner, a Dem, has a son who served in Iraq.

[cboy4]

23. So are all of these men you've posted pics of gay?

or am I an idiot and missing your point. :shrug:

[dsc]

7. A friend of mine at church voted for Bush

He was more concerned about terror than his rights. As Bush kept fucking up worse and worse he was more and more embarrassed about having voted for him. He moved to the other side of the state so I have no idea how much more embarassed he is now. He did have one good point though. Kerry hadn't really been effective in speaking about gay rights and he felt Kerry wouldn't be effective as President. I found that point hard to argue.

[marmar]

9. Less effective than Bush? How?

:shrug:

[dsc]

19. He considered Kerry equally bad not less effective.

[Siyahamba]

22. That's the argument most of them give

"Clinton signed the DOMA," "Kerry didn't support marriage equality either," and so on. They seriously believe there are no differences in GLBT treatment between Democrats and Republicans.

[DURHAM D]

8. Never forget -

the most ardent homophob is the homosexual homophob.

Many, many years ago (mid-70s) while serving on the Board of a new political organization(in Oklahoma)that was working to promote gay and lesbian issues a gay man asked me why we were doing this work. He argued that gays would all be better off if they continued to maintain a low profile. Having just heard him complain about the necessity of attending his employer's (Bank of America)Christmas party and knowing that he had a partner of many years I asked him if he wouldn't have preferred taking his partner (instead of his fake date)to the Christmas banquet.

His response, delivered in an unbelievably snarky fashion and completely void of humor - "That queen - I wouldn't want to be seen anywhere with him".

My first, but not my last encounter with a self-hating homosexual.

[kweerwolf]

15. History is full of 'em ...

There's J. "Edna" Hoover who snooped into the private sex lives of politicians, stars and anyone else who might be abled to be controled through blackmail ... all the while dressing in drag and sucking off hustlers for the amusement of "long time companion" Clyde Tolson.

There's Roy Cohn who has as zealous at persecuting gays as he was Jews (despite being gay and Jewish) ... while still considering himself straight despite a penchant for taking it up the poop chute and contracting HIV (something else he denied until he died of AIDS).

Ditto for Spitz Channel, the founder of the National Conservative Political Action Committee, who took boyfriends to meet the Reagans while working against gay issues.

I wish the list of self-loathing gay Repugnantcans was a finite list, but it seems to be growing every time you turn around.

[DURHAM D]

17. Is Spitz Channel another name for Terry Dolan ? n/t

[kweerwolf]

18. Oooops .. You're right!

Terry Dolan was the guy I was thinking of "Spitz" was another closeted gay man in Washington circles about that time and I got the names confused.

Thanks for the correction!

[ShalachEtAmi]

16. I have lots of memories of the most homophobic of kids growing up into...

..the nicest of Gay folk...



The best remedy for this is role models....They need to come out the closet to help Gay kids shed their self loathing earlier.



The oldest misconception in the book is the belief that if your homophobic enough,nobody will suspect your homosexual.

[rocktivity]

10. "WHY ARE YOU SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT DENIES YOUR VERY HUMANITY?"

That's what Air America's Sam Seder screamed at a caller who identified himself as a gay Republican. After a few other choice words, the poor fellow ended up sputtering that he was going to have to "re-evaluate" his position!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Smarmie Doofus]

11. Giuliani was "gay-friendly"?

>>>>>>The latest news is that the most gay-friendly of Republicans, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, is campaigning for arch-homophobes>>>>>

How so? (Beyond the obvious stuff: said he "supported equal rights" was against "bigotry"; etc. everyone says this stuff in NYC; have to -- to get elected. No biggie; his RW successor says the same meaningless nonsense and works behind the scenes to undercut real progress)


What , specifically, did Giuliani *do* as *mayor* that was politically helpful to gays and lesbians?

[JackintheGreen]

13. Rush Limbaugh - Oxy-moron

Boy! I just can't help myself tonight.

[Ian David]

21. See related post

Syracuse University Study: 33% of gay men are total fucking idiots
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x33251

[ShalachEtAmi]

24. In CANADA ,Prime Minister Stephen Harper`s Government...

The Conservative government.

That has promised a return to the Gay marriage debate.

With possible implications of getting the law overturned...


...Has a GAY CABINET MINISTER..... shhhhhhhhhhhhh........






:loveya:

[Siyahamba]

25. The Conservatives are more like Joe Lieberman Democrats than Republicans.