The strongest (& funniest) argument for why homosexuality is not a choice

[NMMNG]

Homosexuality is not a choice--I don't care how many "ex-gays" Christian conservatives can trot out for the cameras. My proof that homosexuality is not a choice? A question for my straight male readers: Is there anything I could do or say or write that would convince you to willingly, happily, eagerly, anxiously, deliriously, lustfully put my dick in your mouth and leave it there until I had an orgasm? I rest my case.

From "Skipping Towards Gomorrah" by Dan Savage (page 79)

[Kutjara]

1. No, but then there are probably quite a few straight women...

...who wouldn't be thrilled by the idea either.

For the purposes of clarity, I'm not speaking about your dick in particular, just the whole dick/mouth thing in general. I'm sure your dick is very nice. ;)

[NMMNG]

4. I'm a female so I don't have a dick

And the argument wasn't mine, but Dan Savage's. But thanks for the sentiments all the same. :hi:

[Kutjara]

8. Oops, I should probably have been able to work that out from your...

...screen-name, if I actually had a brain. Still, I'm sure that if you had a dick, it would be very n... oh never mind. I'll just go and hide for awhile.

[NMMNG]

10. No worries

:pals:

[Rowdyboy]

2. The whole "choice" scam is such a joke.....

Thank you for recognizing that fact.

[NMMNG]

5. I always have

I was born a lesbian and knew from the moment I began having crushes on girl TV characters instead of boys that something was different. The whole "choice" notion is held by people who want to make themselves feel better about villifying us and discriminating against us.

[Rowdyboy]

11. Its funny....I was very attracted to women when I was 10-12.....(1964-66)

I had SERIOUS crushes on Inger Stevens and Elizabeth Montgomery....




and, especially, Audrey Hepburn

[NMMNG]

12. I started developing crushes on TV girls when I was around 7-8

My two favorites were Angela Cartwright from reruns of Lost in Space




and Melissa Sue Anderson from Little House on the Prarie (yeah, I was a geek).

[Rowdyboy]

13. Around 1968 I finally realized that I truly loved Mickey Dolenz

Life is strange that way...

[Jamastiene]

25. I'm so sick of them thinking it's a choice, that

I have considered turning them against each other for entertainment. One well placed rumor could get a fundy freeper in this area beaten up. :evilgrin:

[gaspee]

23. To the people who believe it is a choice

If I ever get into a conversation with someone who says sexuality is a "choice" I immediately tell them that they're bisexual. The only people who think it's a choice are people who have made that so-called choice. Therefore they are bisexual. I usually get hit with stunned silence.

I actually think the vast middle of the population is bisexual. People don't act on their feelings because of societal pressures.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but I'm sticking to it.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. That this is still up for debate at this late date is a pretty good

indication that we are living in a very primitive culture.

[NMMNG]

7. And sadly here in the US we are moving backwards

Thanks to Fundamentalism. :-(

[Kutjara]

6. Even if it was a choice...

...(and I'm not suggesting for one microsecond that it is), so what? If a whole bunch of people just up and 'decided' they wanted to explore a different sexual alignment and went off and did just that, what business is it of anyone but themselves? As long as people are of adequate age and mental capacity, there is no earthly reason why they shouldn't be permitted, nay encouraged, to do precisely as they please - subject to the proviso they don't harm anyone else. This should be everyone's inalienable right, regardless of what they want to do.

Is homosexuality nature or nurture? Who gives a flying fuck!

[NMMNG]

9. That's the central issue the virtuecrats can't get over

subject to the proviso they don't harm anyone else

If the parties involved are consenting adults who are not harming anybody else then who gives a flying rip what they are doing?

[soothsayer]

14. Well, what about prison (or pirate, or boy's school) sex?

m

[NMMNG]

17. Those aren't acts of true homosexuality

In some cases it is simply rape, for the same reasons men rape women and vice versa--power and domination.

In others it is merely a situation of necessity. Sexual release is desired and out of necessity male-on-male behavior is utilized for that release. If women were available these men would never engage in the male/male sex acts. There is no "joy, lust, passion, desire" etc. between the partners, merely release.

[bigscott]

24. not sure i buy this one

the rape part fine - i agree - it is all about power. the "necessity" part? nope, sorry I disagree. I would LOVE to agree because I COULD have used it with my ex-wife (ummm, honey, I really wanted to have sex with YOU but YOU were not at the truck stop last night...) doesn't wash with me. FWIW, by new SO is always home with me at night - and the "necessity" problem is solved. Thank god for my DVD player - aka - my SO

[NMMNG]

27. There's a difference between

"Gee honey, you weren't at the truck stop last night"

and


"I was locked away from women for 10 years"

[Creideiki]

15. We give full equal rights to people who make conscious decisions, anyway

Religion for one.

[NMMNG]

18. Oh but religion is a good and virtuous choice,

while homosexuality is a vile, deviant and baaaad choice. :sarcasm:

[mitchtv]

16. Hey wild Bill , wait for me

Guy Madison, Wild Bill Hickock
I was always Gay

[NMMNG]

19. Likewise

:hi:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

20. Ewww...you're gay.

I knew it!

We can't be DU friends anymore. Stop posting on my threads.

[NMMNG]

21. I'm here, I'm queer

[mitchtv]

22. .

[readmoreoften]

26. One problem with the logic of Dan Savage's comment...

Half these fucking straight guys can't get straight women to "willingly, happily, eagerly, anxiously, deliriously, lustfully" suck their own cocks. Straights are used to connecting lustless, dutiful intercourse with compulsory heterosexuality.

[NMMNG]

28. His point is

Most straight men would be repulsed by the idea of sucking another man's penis. A few could do it if they felt compelled to (duress, for money) but wouldn't enjoy it. Only a man who was actually gay by nature would do it and get blissful enjoyment out of it.