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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:07 PM
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Crouching Conservative, Hidden Homosexual?
I think it's safe to say it takes a fair amount of denial to be a Republican.

You have to deny science, deny history, deny logic, deny morality, deny facts, deny reason.

So it wouldn't be a surprise to me to know that many high ranking Republicans are closeted homosexuals. To live in the closet you have to deny your innate, biologically wired sexual urges. The ability to live a life of denial to fit into the accepted mainstream lifestyle lends itself well to a successful political career as Republican operative.

Unless you are sociopath, you have to resort to denial as a Republican. Deep down every Republican knows that their career is undoing all of the progress society has made towards fairness and equality. The GOP really is just the largest organized crime family, shaking down the middle class. You either use denial as a defense mechanism or you become a really miserable self loathing human being.

Why all the homophobia from the right? Is it just a matter of political advantage? Could it be that a lot of the people on the right resent and are deeply jealous of people who choose to live their life honestly, despite the hardship, instead of living a life of denial like they are stuck with?

Now i'm not saying most Republicans are closet cases. I just think a lot of the people in the leadership may be. It makes a lot of sense.

It is <a href='http://web.isp.cz/jcrane/IB/Homophobia_and_arousal.pdf'>empirically established</a> that self-identified homophobic males are much more likely to be aroused by gay erotica then a control group of non-homophobic males, indicating that the homophobia is a defense mechanism, to keep from acting on their same-sex desires, or from self loathing that arises from past daliances.

The new head of the RNC, Ken Mehlman has been outed as gay on account of his hypocritical attacks of democrats who advocate equal civil rights, including homosexuals. Several high ranking White House officials set gaydars abuzz, Karl Rove and Scott McClellan, in particular. George W's longest and dearest friend, Victor Ashe, fellow male Cheerleader at Yale, and former "roomate", now the Ambassador to Poland, is reportedly gay. A St. Louis man, Elliot Sanders, claims to have had a three month gay affair with Rush Limbaugh in college.

The whole Jeff Gannon, fake report, gay pornographer/pimp story has brought back from the memory hole a story from the '80s about a D.C gay prostitution ring that implicated White House officials and involved possible ties to CIA blackmailing schemes. This isn't just Internet mumbo jumbo rumors. The story broke in the Washington Times with the headline "Homosexual Prostitution ring ensnares V.I.P.s with Reagan, Bush -- 'Call boys' took midnight tour of White House."

The man at the center of the scandal later was found dead, from an apparent suicide. Let your conspiracy theories bloom hence.

<div class='bqt'>Spence was a conservative lobbyist during the Reagan-Bush years. The New York Times called him "Washington's ultimate power broker." He was also running a gay prostitution ring which employed adolescent boys. As perks of the job, he treated his boys to after-hour tours of the White House. In The Washington Times of August 9, 1989, Spence "hinted the tours were arranged by top level" persons, including Vice President Bush's National Security Adviser Donald Gregg, whose name also figures prominently in the October Surprise story. The paper added that "Spence, according to friends, was also carrying out homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA."

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The Spence story never really registered on the national media’s radar screen. Despite being a largely Republican scandal, it was completely ignored by such pillars of the purportedly liberal press as the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. The story soon disappeared entirely and Washington and the media proceeded to pretend as though nothing had ever happened. According to a Washington Times reporter, the paper trail was quickly covered up. Some 20,000 documents pertaining to the case were sealed by court order and the U.S. Attorney’s office issued a gag order on the release of information. By the time that Craig Spence turned up dead in a Boston hotel less than five months after the story first broke, he had been all but forgotten. He had earlier told a friend: “I may be disappearing soon. It will be sudden. It may appear to be a suicide, but it won’t be.”</div>
It's an entertaining read the complete run down on this scandal by clicking the "View Article Link" button.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:24 PM
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1. I am so sick and tired of all these posts about closeted Republicans
why do people assume that they're gay--maybe they're straight assholes?

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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:29 PM
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2. Don't take it as an attack
The evil comes from being closeted, living a life of denial of basic urges, not from being GAY.

Don't miss the point :)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 12:43 PM
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3. Roy Cohn, J. Edgar Hoover
and they weren't the only ones. This is a type of self loathing gay who is completely unrelated to the open and joyous gay folks out there in the big world.

Yes, there are straight assholes. However, the hyper masculinity, the hyper religiosity (at least in public), the absolute loathing of all things female, the hostility to tolerance and civil rights for anyone who isn't a straight male is pretty telling of what they really are.

Repression is an ugly thing, and it generally starts with oneself.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:44 PM
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4. That last line speaks VOLUMES!
Repression is an ugly thing, and it generally starts with oneself.

:thumbsup:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:59 PM
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5. Me too
I tried to explain to someone on another thread that someone baiting people for blackmail does not have to be gay to do so. You can sit in front of a camera in your underpants and the camera will take the picture whether YOU ARE GAY OR NOT.

Many men, married men, "straight" men, etc. have sex with other men on the sly. I think many people have no clue how varied other people's sex lives are in spite of outward appearances.

If someone wants to blackmail and control men in positions of power, they need only tap into this underground of sexual secrets. One DOES NOT have to be gay to do so. Registering websites which would seem inclined to offer escorts to men does not mean the registrant is gay. Registering website which seem to target men who are interested in military types may well be an attempt to blackmail the men who contact the site.

Also note: Guckert (aka Gannon) never put these websites up live. He only registered the names. I have yet to see one shred of evidence that Gannon is gay, is a prostitute or is a pimp but that does seem to stop very many people from saying so.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:03 PM
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6. Try instant messaging his AOL screen name. See if he wants a date
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