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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:23 AM
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What does everyone here think of The Simpson's episode?
Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 11:24 AM by Stop_the_War
I was really offended when they did the "warning" before the show. The warning basically said "Warning: This show contains discussions of same-sex marriage. Viewer discretion advised.":grr:

But I thought the actual episode was OK except for some parts that seemed to be advocating "slippery slope" theory.


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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:25 AM
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1. i found it a biting scocial commentary of both sides
of the issue
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:26 AM
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2. Not "advocating" slippery slope theories,
merely bringing them to light and exposing their hypocrisies.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:32 AM
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3. it was OK
the warning was silly, I agree. I was also disappointed that Patti didn't get to marry. I was hoping to have a recurring lesbian couple on the show, but I guess that's not going to happen.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:42 AM
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4. I think it offered an opportunity
that many ignorant people out there believe: that a gay can marry a person of the opposite sex, and still be happy. Patti's ability to shout out loud, "NO! I like girls!" was a triumph.

I liked how they called it a wedding, and a marriage--not their separate-but-equal counterparts.

What you have to realize is that many generations watch this show. This show has always had a fascinating ability to convey a message to kids and adults at the same time.

I'm surprised FOX let it on! But then again, they'd lose a lot if they lost the Simpsons.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14741193
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 11:54 AM
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5. shucks-Patti did not marry (I missed it). but reminds me of "the lonely
well" and other gay/lesbians novels--generaly end sad (something always seem to interfere with the gay couple getting together).
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Boomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 01:07 PM
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8. Tangential factoid about "Well of Loneliness"
Radclyffe Hall is best known for writing the "The Well of Loneliness" in which a homosexual "invert" wallows in misery over her unnatural condition and her feminine lover eventually leaves to marry a "real" man. For all the controversy it stirred, the book was actually a confirmation of the conventional view of homosexuality as an abomination.

But many years earlier Hall wrote a much better, and quite different, lesbian novel called "The Unlit Lamp." In that story, the tragedy is that a young woman allows her family to talk her out of leaving home to attend university and accept the love of another woman. Her failure of courage dooms her to a life of sad mediocrity; the authorial perspective makes it clear that she passed up the chance for happiness that living with her tutor would have brought her.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:24 PM
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6. What confuses me about the show ...
Is which of the advertisers we are supposed to boycott?

You just know the fundaMENTALists were sitting there righting down every advertiser and are wearing their crayons down to the nubs today sending out 'how dare y'all promote that there homo-sec-shul agender!' letters today.

I was glad to see Burger King advertise on the show, but does that mean I should eat there even if I'm still boycotting them for importing South American beef and thus contributing to the devastation of the rain forest?

<sigh!> It's tough being politically correct.:tinfoilhat:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 12:55 PM
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7. Did You Visit Springfield's Web Site?
Were the images OFFENSIVE to you? Prancing coiffed fey men in tight shirts and rolled up hems on the shorts? OMG OMG OMG OMG! It's the end of the world! :hi:

http://www.springfieldisforgayloversofmarriage.com/

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blogactive Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:31 PM
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9. The warning
The pre show warning as the worst part of it...sooooo Fox. A bunch of right wingnuts who will go gay for profits on Sunday Night TV.
Typical.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 02:42 PM
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10. Did any people think that it was pro-gay but transphobic?
I didn't see the episode, but my partner did and s/he felt really saddened by for that reason.

I didn't see it.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:05 PM
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11. Could The Warning Have Been A Spoof Itself?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 06:46 PM
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14. No, from what I understand it was very clearly from
FOX itself and not from the makers of the Simpsons.
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satyricrash Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 04:09 PM
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12. Typical
I thought it was funny (not funny ha ha) that an advisory warning was placed before this episode, an episode where nothing offensive really happened, yet a half an hour later on The Simpsons, (cartoon) James Caan was riddled with machine gun bullets at a toll booth, and that received no warning whatsoever.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-05 05:58 PM
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13. Welcome to DU 'Typical'.
:hi:

Yea, it's strange that gay marriage warrants an advisory but violence doesn't. . .Family Values at work

:eyes:
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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:21 AM
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15. The Marge/Rev Lovejoy segment
really summed up the conserv. Christan's argument against Gay Marriage

Rev. Its in the Bible
Marge. which book?
Rev. The BIBLE!!!
Marge. Biblical Theologians (rest obscured by Rev. ringing church bell loudly to drown out her logical argument as to why there is no evidence against GLBT marriage in the Bible...)


That to me accurately portrayed the 'finger in ear' attitude that opponents of Gay Marriage use when confronted with the facts about what is really in the Bible.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 11:27 AM
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16. It was a good but not a great episode.
The "Dad, why did you bring me to a gay steel mill?" episode was better.
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KnowerOfLogic Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:17 AM
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17. Not so good; it promoted gay marriage = people marrying animals
or brothers and sisters marrying, etc. Homer said something to that effect (Reverend could marry his bible, plus other similar stuff), and in the marriage scenes Cletus and some female relative got married, and i think there was a hillbilly pickup truck in line with some farm animal in the back. Not sure what to make of Patty's fiancee being a man; possibly some suggestion that lesbians aren't 'real women,' and presumably gay men aren't real men. Seems to me that they were trying to play both sides of the fence and offer both arguments, as if they were equally valid. It's sometimes hard to know what side of the issue the simpson's is on.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:28 AM
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18. The Daily Show for 2-24-05
See the Lewis Black commentary...it nails the issue. Fox viewers protesting the evil of FOX...LOL!
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