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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:10 AM
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My friends. I am so sorry. I didn't realize until now about Prop 8.
I'm weeping here. I'm so so sorry. I know folks out there who tried really, really hard and my heart is broken.

:hug:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:11 AM
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1. I'm sorry it passed too...

Don't know why Californians would do that..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:12 AM
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2. It is not over... this will end in the courts
you can bet your ass

And given HOW marriages between latino and anglo were throown out, you can betcha this will not stand

It is just going to be a long hard fought slog

And I must say this... the churches behind this HAVE to be investigaged by the IRS for taxable income
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 11:46 AM
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13. Oh, yeah they're going to investigate the Mormons and the Catholic church
who hid behind fake PACs and the Knights of Columbus.

Sorry, I'm just so devastated this morning.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:12 AM
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3. Not over yet - there are still 3 million votes to be counted.
The opposition gloated too soon. They are only up 350,000 votes. It's not over yet.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:21 AM
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9. Well, that is good news. The big news here of course is that we went blue
so I didn't know about Prop 8.

*fingers crossed*
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:40 AM
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12. And a wonderful thing it is that Virginia did go blue!
My district/county - formerly Hastert country - went formerly blue. We had a special election of a DEM candidate in March as Hastert just left his post to be lobbyist. Yesterday made it official.

This prop 8 thing could still turn around. I have hope.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:12 AM
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4. The exit poll data is pretty disconcerting.
Way too many Dems voted for that piece of crap proposition. I don't get it.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:16 AM
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5. As I posted elsewhere,
the effort will continue. Newer generations of voters will embrace equal rights marriage just as they embraced Barak Obama yesterday. Some of the older ones may come around. Those who oppose will die off. It will happen. Eventually.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:17 AM
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6. Word.
I didn't learn about it until this morning. I hope to hell it gets challenged in the courts quickly.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:18 AM
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7. You and me both.
Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM by oktoberain
I don't think I have ever been as emotionally confused as I am this morning. It's difficult to bear, this strange mixture of joy and almost unspeakable hurt and grief. On a single ballot, the people of California both rejected AND embraced bigotry.

We were tentatively planning to get married there. If Proposition 8 turns out to have indeed passed, then I honestly don't know what we'll do. New England, maybe. We lived in New York for a while, and Boston is also nice. *sigh*
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:09 PM
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14. We'd love to have you in NY.
I can tell you with all certainty that we will have marriage equality next. It's only been the Repukes in the State Senate stopping marriage equality but the entire legislature is in Democratic hands now (we finally took back the state senate last night), and our governor is a huge ally. That is the one thing holding me up right now WRT our issues.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:14 PM
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15. NJ is nice, although it's cheaper to live in southern NJ
100% equal rights, and te eGov has PROMISED to change the titel to "married" after teh election. Which is now.
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GAtomboy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:19 AM
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8. So so happy, yet so sad
I was so happy to see the racial barriers broken in the country last night as Barack Obama became our president, but I was saddened by the outcome of Prop 8. If CA can't stop pure discrimination like that junk, what hope do my g/f and I have living in a red state like GA, or any other gay americans in this country.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:22 AM
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10. I really appreciate fellow Dems who are at least sympathetic
and supportive.

this is about our lives- day to day--it's not like we can live in a closet. Our lives are impacted by laws and attitudes daily and we are all aware of pernicious and sub rosa bigotry can be.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 10:25 AM
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11. I am sorry
If it really does pass, I hope the courts strike it down. It never should have been on the ballot.:cry:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 12:29 PM
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16. I am so sorry, too.
I'm hurting for all of you and I'm so angry that hate has won, at least for now. Discrimination should never, EVER be on a freakin' ballot! I honestly don't know what else to say because there's nothing I can say to make it better.

:hug:
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