"Mormon is the New Black"...

[keepCAblue]

I kid you not.

http://pearl-diving.blogspot.com/2008/11/mormon-is-new-black.html

This blogger needs some DU "love".

n the wake of Proposition 8, a popular phrase has sprung into being and is being widely circulated on the Internet and throughout media outlets. I have heard it often alleged that "Gay is the new Black." Supposedly gays are the oppressed, battered, African-American sequels. I protest that comparison and would suggest a more accurate one. In a near-perfect echo of the horrific monstrosities played out against the Black Texas Western basketball players, I propose that in truth, "Mormon is the new Black." Seeing those blood-splattered motel walls immediately brought to mind the graffiti-littered LA Temple walls and angry, anti-Mormon epithets hoisted up on homemade signs, swaying to and fro above a seething, volatile crowd. "Ban the Mormons!" This is the current and beloved call of gay rights activists. Watching that Black basketball player being beaten senseless in a filthy public bathroom reminded me of the elderly couple beaten mercilessly by their neighbor for exercising their freedom of speech by placing Yes on 8 signs in their yard, and the young Hispanic women attacked by gay rights activists while trying to remove vulgar signs from sacred temple property, and the elderly woman in Palm Springs who endured the mockery and rage of a vicious crowd who promptly snuffed out her freedom of speech as they ripped her cross from her hands and crushed it under foot. The anger of this mob knows no bounds and the religious - Mormon, Episcopalian, and Catholic alike - are the unfortunate victims.

The gay "rights" movement is steam-rolling forward powered by blood-lust and rage, leaving in its wake a carnage the likes of which this country has not seen since Blacks were sent to the back of the bus. While this new, millennial movement claims love and equal rights as its objectives; lying in its wake is the antithetical and conspicuous reality - the tattered remains of freedom of speech and religion. At the end of the rigidly pointing homosexual fingers stand the Mormons, being sent to the back of the bus for equally unfair reasons as their beloved African American brothers - they voted.

Mormon is the new Black.

[YOY]

1. No. It's pretty much the same old Mormon.

They just don't realize it.

[QC]

2. "their beloved African American brothers"

The same ones who were not even allowed to be full members until the 1970s?

[TechBear_Seattle]

19. And only because LDS racism was interfering with their operations in most of world

Because only whites were allowed to hold the priesthood, missionary efforts to Central and South America, Africa, Asia and much of Australia were ultimately doomed to failure: they simply did not have the priests to staff the churches and temples they wanted to build. Not to mention, the converts they were getting were not turning into whites, in contradiction of 2 Nephi 30:6. (Originally, such people would become "white and delightsome" but somehow, the "most correct book on earth" was changed in the 1981 and subsequent editions to read "pure and delightsome." Imagine that.)

[LeftyMom]

30. The ones who would supposedly become "white and delightsome" if they were sufficiently good?

The ones who were the sinful decendents of Ham, the servants of the devil? (Keep in mind, most Mormons still believe that.) Those beloved African American brothers?

These people have no shame.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. Jesus Christ. Dude's just a big old bag of bigotry, inn't he? nt

[panader0]

4. It's like apples and oranges

Black is a race, gay is a sexual preference, mormon is a religion. Quite different.

[keepCAblue]

15. sexual orientation, not "preference"...preference implies being gay is a choice n/t

[Zuiderelle]

5. WTF is he talking about? An elderly couple beaten by their neighbor for having a Yes on 8 Sign???

Where do these people pull this stuff from?

[yardwork]

7. Bunch of lies.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

16. That's Gotta Be Bullshit!

I would like to kick people in the ass for voting "Yes on 8". However, in the end, it is their choice. And who the fuck would beat up an elderly couple for having a "yes on 8" sign?! The lies these people dream up. They've managed to enshrine hate into law....now they're playing the victim card. Pitiful and 1000 kinds of fail.

[FreeState]

24. It actually happened unfortunately... link

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20081103-2312-bn03batter.html


Man arrested in fight over Prop. 8 signs

CARLSBAD – A 53-year-old man punched two neighbors in their 70s in a dispute over Proposition 8 yard signs Monday night, Carlsbad police said.

The resident on Sandcastle Drive was jailed on suspicion of elder abuse and battery causing great bodily injury, police Lt. Neil Gallucci said.
The couple, a man, 76, and his wife, 77, had placed a sign in their front yard in favor of Proposition 8, which would amend the state constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman. The couple's neighbor reportedly placed a No on Prop. 8 sign on the couple's property, in front of their sign, Gallucci said.

They confronted him about it and fight broke out, Gallucci said. Neighbors called police about 8 p.m., saying the younger man had struck the older couple in the face and head. Paramedics treated the pair, who were then going to seek their own hospital care. Gallucci said the woman's eye, already in a bandage from recent cataract surgery, may have been damaged.

[FreeState]

25. And another violent attack here as well (link)

http://www.10news.com/news/17887475/detail.html

CARLSBAD, Calif. -- Disputes over Proposition 8 campaign signs in Carlsbad left one man in custody on suspicion of assault and at least one other alleged assailant at large Tuesday, authorities reported.

The latter of the two scuffles over the ballot measure, which would ban same-sex marriage in California, occurred about 10 a.m., when a jogger spotted two men removing "Yes on 8" signs in the area of Aviara Parkway and Cormorant Drive, police spokeswoman Lynn Diamond said.

When the witness confronted the thieves, one of them pulled off the witness' hat and smashed his eyeglasses on the ground. The attacker's large black-and-tan dog then bit the victim in his upper leg, causing deep puncture wounds, according to Diamond.

At that point, the assailant -- a man who appeared to be in his late 30s or early 40s, wearing shorts and a polo shirt -- ran off along with his companion, who also was leading a dog.

[Zuiderelle]

28. What the hell is wrong with Carlsbad? It's nearly unbelievable.

[Zuiderelle]

27. Well, he's a real asshole.

He sounds unbalanced. I wonder if it was really about the sign or something else.

[Phred42]

6. oh the poor Morons?

phuck that cult

[wryter2000]

8. Hey, leave the Episcopalians out of it!

They didn't fund Prop 8.

Yes, some parishes are leaving the church so they can continue to be bigots, but in doing so, they are ceasing to be Episcopalians. The Episcopalian church is pro-gay rights.

[Bluenorthwest]

13. I'll second that

I attended a funeral at an Episcopal chruch with my partner and they were really kind and inclusive, in a way that made me think they'd thought about how to say 'welcome'. It meant the world that day. I'm always knocking religion here, so I thought I'd jump in to say, those Episcopals acted downright Christian. I will never ever forget that day, or that church.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

17. Yep, I'm With You Two

Any time I have attended the Episcopal Church, I have been treated very well. Most are nice inclusive people and those who are not can just go found their own little cult. Episcopalians tend to be the most Christian of the lot.

[wryter2000]

22. I'm glad to hear that

I was raised in the Episcopal church but am now an agnostic. I have fond memories of my faith, and I've been following their problems with the international church. They're standing up for justice, and they're getting a lot of grief for it. They're also one of the few major churches with a woman in charge. :evilgrin:

[Downtown Hound]

9. Mormons-boy they can dish it out but they can't take it

They have no concept that they just destroyed a bunch of people's marriages. They do this under the guise of "free speech." I wonder how they'd feel if somebody destroyed their marriages? Fuck 'em. Rampaging asshats.

[yardwork]

11. If possible, I'm beginning to dislike this particular organization more than before.

I'd never really thought much one way or the other about the Church of Latter-Day Saints. I've read some books about their fundamentalist offshoots and those were horrific, but I figured that the mainstream Mormons were ok. There are a few Mormons who work in my building and they're unfailingly pleasant and easygoing colleagues.

But this...it's just been unbelievable. First the organization's leadership dreams up and launches a major campaign to take away the rights of others. Thousands of Mormons respond by sending money. Then when people complain about losing their rights, the Mormons send out an army of apologists who literally make shit up and write crap like this.

These guys are soul mates to chimpy. I've had it with their group.

[Adjective Noun]

31. taking away rights

"But this...it's just been unbelievable. First the organization's leadership dreams up and launches a major campaign to take away the rights of others."

Now you know how gun owners feel, especially in California where inch by inch we are losing our rights. Prop 8 has come up in some shooting forums, and I wonder if anyone here has made the connection. Some members are on the yes side, but for others like me the outcome of 8 is nothing more than tyranny of the majority, one group of people telling others what to do. Regardless of how they feel about gay marriage, they would be hypocrites to demand society accept them owning and carrying weapons while telling someone else they can not marry the person they fall in love with.

I would rather the "gub'mint" (and by extension society) got out of the business of defining ANY type of marriage. I don't see anything about it in the constitution, and the Bill of Rights is mostly about telling the government the things it can not do when it comes to our inherent rights. It even goes so far as to say "just because we didn't list a specific right here does not mean that it does not exist or that the federal government is empowered to restrict it".

Accepting however that the government does at least tacitly define marriage by mucking around with income taxes as they pertain to it, prop 8 is obviously unconstitutional by the 14th amendment.

Anyway, I voted no. How many of you would vote for concealed carry or to repeal the gun control act of 1968?

-Noun

[Creideiki]

34. Load of crap

I'm all for members of the military, National Guard, and the police having concealed carry permits--well-regulated militias. I'm not about to turn my life into a warzone because you need to compensate for something.

You're conflating some fairy tale version of the Second Amendment with real people's real lives.

[yardwork]

35. You're comparing two totally different things.

I don't know enough about gun laws in California to be able to comment on it, and I don't live in California so it's a moot point. However, equal marriage rights aren't the same as saying that the entire government should be dismantled and disallowed from passing any laws.

Some laws are necessary. Protecting marriage from queer people isn't one of them.

I agree with you about the tyranny of the majority. Gun laws shouldn't be based on what a majority of people think either.

[Adjective Noun]

36. Late reply

I'm sorry I didn't see your replies sooner.

Dinkeldog,

The Supreme Court decided last year that the 2nd amendment applies to individuals, not the the militia or the national guard (founded 100 years after the bill of rights was written).

48 states offer some form of concealed carry. In 40 of those, it's not hard to get a concealed carry permit; one must pass a background check. Do you think some of these states are war zones?

You lost me at "Fairy Tale".

Yardwork,

Your reply gives a mixed signal. I wasn't trying to come across as wanting to dismantle the government, I hope you didn't think so. I wanted to see if anyone here sees the two issues as the same, at least in the sense of society/the majority/government telling consenting adults what they can not do.

-Adjective Noun

[yardwork]

10. What a load of nonsense.

[damntexdem]

12. Mormon is the new slaveholder.

Mormon is the new Jim Crow.

Mormon is the new gay-basher. (Oh, wait -- nothing new about it.)

Yeah, several different slogans seem more apt than the one pushed here.

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Mormons are sure not as short on hubris as they are on

memory. Beloved African American brothers? They say being black is a mark of the curse of Ham, they still teach that.
Liars of the lowest sort.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

18. Yeah, That One Really Slays Me...

Beloved African American brothers?:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[readmoreoften]

20. "the elderly couple beaten mercilessly by their neighbor for exercising their freedom"(?)

LINK PLEASE

(aka: PA-LEAASE... :eyes:)

[RetiredTrotskyite]

21. PA-LEAASE Indeed!

The sad thing is that there are gullible people out there who will believe this crap. Well old PT said there was one born every minute.

[bluedawg12]

23. More like the tattered remains of truth in his cheap lies defaming gays.

[terrya]

26. What, did someone take away their rights or something?

Poor widdle bigots.

[IndianaGreen]

29. LDS is reaping what it has sown

While there is a significant minority of Mormons that disavow Prop 8, the fact remains that LDS bears a great deal of the blame for advocating intolerance.

[Adjective Noun]

32. Re: taking away rights

(I should have said that regarding the 14th amendment, either prop 8 is unconstitutional or the tax codes pertaining to marriage are.)

"But this...it's just been unbelievable. First the organization's leadership dreams up and launches a major campaign to take away the rights of others."

Now you know how gun owners feel, especially in California where inch by inch we are losing our rights. Prop 8 has come up in some shooting forums, and I wonder if anyone here has made the connection. Some members are on the yes side, but for others like me the outcome of 8 is nothing more than tyranny of the majority, one group of people telling others what to do. Regardless of how they feel about gay marriage, they would be hypocrites to demand society accept them owning and carrying weapons while telling someone else they can not marry the person they fall in love with.

I would rather the "gub'mint" (and by extension society) got out of the business of defining ANY type of marriage. I don't see anything about it in the constitution, and the Bill of Rights is mostly about telling the government the things it can not do when it comes to our inherent rights. It even goes so far as to say "just because we didn't list a specific right here does not mean that it does not exist or that the federal government is empowered to restrict it".

Accepting however that the government does at least tacitly define marriage by mucking around with income taxes as they pertain to it, prop 8 is obviously unconstitutional by the 14th amendment.

Anyway, I voted no. How many of you would vote for concealed carry or to repeal the gun control act of 1968?

-Noun

[dipsydoodle]

33. It is both arrogant and thoughtless

to suggest that any group could ever aspire to being termed "The New Black".

[HillbillyBob]

37. To quote Ossie Davis from several years ago

"Gays are now the new N-----, they are getting the same kind of treatment that we got, abeit not on as wide a scale, I see it getting worse in the future"
I cannot remember if that was exactly how he said it, but that is the gist.

[TEmperorHasNoClothes]

38. if we "steam rolled" we'd have more rights than we do

The gay "rights" movement is steam-rolling forward powered by blood-lust and rage
I have a problem with the mormon church, not individual mormons... except perhaps whover wrote that post and that's not because of mormonism, it's because of ignorance.

[Creideiki]

39. Poor widdle Mormons...so oppressed.

Maybe we should start shooting for Constitutional amendments that marriages performed that involve Mormons are invalid and that Mormons can get fired from their jobs, denied housing, and everything else. Hey, we protect against discrimination based on religion--the ultimate lifestyle choice, based on all the proselytizing I've been the target of--but we should be able to get an exception special for the Mormons.