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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:46 PM
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What would you do if you end up with a choice
Homophobic Democrat-halfway decent otherwise
Log Cabin Republican-(pro marriage equality) Rockefeller type
No viable 3rd party?
I decided to not post a poll, as I want to see comments
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:48 PM
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1. Interesting question
I would probably say Log Cabin Republican. It's hard to deal with people who make their decisions based on fear.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:50 PM
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3. I have taken the pledge
No support at all for politicians who are not up front pro marriage equailty-no hedging any more.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:50 PM
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2. unsure. depends how homophobic. poverty is a big deal to me, so i would have to weigh
it against that
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:52 PM
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4. this question was inspired by Dem senators in NY
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:30 PM
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12. see in ny, i think we can do better. those choices seem so unacceptable
i might vote repub if the dem party in ny gave me garbage
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:56 PM
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5. Honestly, it would depend where I lived.
If it were an affluent community I'd go with the Log Cabin one. If I lived in a poor area that desperately needed funding for social services I'd have to hold my nose and vote for the Democratic homophobe. Same thing with choice. I'm a pro-choice voter but I would have to make the same decision as regards a pro-choice Republican vs. an anti-choice Dem.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 04:56 PM
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6. As a Dem, I would want to see if the Dem could be approached
by citizens who might support him/her otherwise but are dedicated to gay rights. Gay rights organizations might do this.

If the Dem refuses, you vote your principles and let the Dem know. Similarly, the Repub. needs to know your views on why you are willing in this one narrow, but important, case you consider voting for the Repub.

Tough choice but it comes down to one's own principles, doesn't it?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:01 PM
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7. It would be a hard choice
However, one that doesn't have to be made because there are no more Rockefeller type Republicans around. And I would hope that any homophobic Democrat could be persuaded otherwise.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:03 PM
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8. I would also factor in things like economy and whatnot
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 05:03 PM by DarkTirade
if the economy of an area is only a few steps away from going into an early 1900s style rich-shit-on-the-poor style then there's a good chance that the republican would push it over the edge into that. I'd bite my tongue and go with the democrat. If the republican had a good record with economy and business issues however, I'd bite my tongue and... hmm... not sure I could bring myself to vote republican even if he was teh better option. Man, after spending most of my teenagerhood in a red state and then having the first election I can vote in go for Bush, I just don't think I can bring myself to vote republican.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:06 PM
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9. I'd probably stay home
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:09 PM
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11. Yeah. An abstain is a choice as well.
Normally not the best one, but in this case... :\
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:07 PM
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10. We all have our cutoff points
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 05:09 PM by Warpy
Mine is choice. I can vote for a pro reproductive slavery candidate about as well as I could vote for one who wanted to bring back states rights regarding the 19th century form of slavery. I just can't do it. The right of half the human population to sovereignty over their own bodies is too important.

I fully understand any GLBT person who can't vote for a homophobe, in other words. We all have one or two lines drawn in the sand. Your rights aren't up for debate any more than mine are.

Given the choice above, applied to gay civil rights or women's right to reproductive choice, I'd abstain. Neither candidate would be even remotely palatable and I could give neither my permission to hold the job.

Other things are negotiable. Civil rights are not.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 05:39 PM
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13. This almost sorta happened in San Diego's Mayors race last spring
The Mayor is not gay but is a pro-equality moderate Republican (no party affiliation is used in any city positions here however). His challenger is a former conservative turned progressive (or so he claims - most doubted him) but does not support marriage-equality. For the first time in over 20 years I voted for a Republican - but that was because of several reasons - not just equality (the "progressive" running against him was a pro-big government candidate who somehow claims to have changed all of his beliefs in less than a year - I did not trust or believe him).
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 06:41 PM
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14. It depends
Legislative I would vote for the Democrat if he or she promised to vote for the leadership; executive likely vote for the Republican.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 08:19 PM
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15. I do know that my donations, time, activism are going to those who support gay rights.
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 08:20 PM by bluedawg12
They're limited resources and I will disperse them with great care.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:45 PM
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16. I would vote Democratic because Republicans have done nothing but .....
screw me without a single kiss. Even one kiss might have helped. As it is, its a little sad....
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:15 PM
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17. I wouldn't vote. That's not a choice since most homophobic Democrats are economic conservatives.
That's like a choice between A and Z if A=Z. No choice. No reason to waste my time casting a ballot.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:17 PM
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18. This actually happened in Philly. When John Street ran, the Gay Dems couldn't endorse.
They just abstained because Street was so virulently homophobic. The Republican reached out to gays but their charter said they couldn't endorse a Republican.
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