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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:02 AM
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Laser acupuncture may help bedwetters: study
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/15/us-acupuncture-bedwetters-idUSTRE73E5HC20110415

Acupuncture using a laser beam might help young bedwetters break the nighttime habit, according to a new study from Turkey.

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Using a low-power laser, about two-thirds of the kids received acupuncture therapy on traditional bladder points three times a week for 4 weeks. The other kids, used for comparison, got the same treatment but with a fake laser.

Fifteen days after completing the treatment, 40 percent of kids who got therapy with a real laser had stopped wetting the bed entirely, compared to 8 percent of those with fake laser treatment. After 6 months, rates of complete improvement were 54 percent versus 12 percent.

Also 6 months after the treatment, kids in the laser therapy group wet the bed less than twice a week on average, compared to three times a week in the fake-laser group.


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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:08 AM
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1. "Fake-Laser Group" would be a good name for a band. n/t
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:10 AM
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2. Oh, I See --
Using a laser (or fake laser) was the only was to do a double-blind study. Very clever.

I know acupunture has an effect. It's obviously not what the traditional theory says, unless you believe in things like the triple burner. But if done properly it's absolutely wonderful.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:52 AM
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3. it is probably
the best way to do the study "double blind" (since there really is no such thing as blinded acupuncture--that idea amuses me).

But some acupuncturists actually use laser acupuncture. Here is another example...........

http://www.healthcmi.com/index.php/acupuncturist-news-online/328-laseracupunctureceuschildren

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WatsonT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 08:55 AM
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4. "Stop wetting the bed or I'll turn you over to the mad scientist and his laser chair!"
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 08:55 AM by WatsonT
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:35 AM
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5. LOL
How can it be called acu-"puncture"?
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 11:58 AM
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6. because
it is applied to acupuncture points.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:02 PM
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7. LOL
My question still stands.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:11 PM
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10. so what would you call
Laser therapy applied to acupuncture points? Does it really bother you so much? It is a very descriptive name.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:59 PM
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11. LOL
Bother me? I find it hilarious! :rofl:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 12:21 PM
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8. Isn't 40% worse than chance?
Edited on Tue Apr-26-11 12:57 PM by laconicsax
It something works, shouldn't it work more than half of the time? Shouldn't children whose bedwetting is 'cured' not still wet the bed after treatment?

Edit: I forgot to add--the group receiving the 'fake laser' showed a reduction in bedwetting too. That's some therapy! :rofl:
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-26-11 03:10 PM
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9. you gotta be kidding right?
Do you think a new cancer therapy has to have greater than 50% cure rate to be approved or used? :rofl:




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