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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:02 PM
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Poll question: Do you get cold sores?
I read a statistic that said 60% of the population gets cold sores, which means they are infected with herpes simplex 1 virus. I wonder if this is true.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:03 PM
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1. Actually, I heard that it can be 1 or 2.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:07 PM
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2. I believe you are correct
I am not certain, but that is how I understand it to be.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:08 PM
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3. I got cold sores for years until I disovered lysine.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:12 PM
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6. So it was you! YOU discovered lysine!!
Congradulations! (they really should give you a reward you know)

(hee hee)

But seriously, what does lysine do in this regard, and how much/how often do you take it?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:30 PM
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10. Yep,great scientist that I am. :-). I take one 1000 mg per day and
have been doing it for over 25 years.It was hard to find when I started taking it but now it's everyplace.

No side effects,no cold sores.I had been plagued with the nasty things for years.

I suggested it to two other people and they had the same results.

Oddly enough,I first heard of it in Parade Magazine.My dosage is my own doing,so less mgs. may do for someone else.



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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:43 PM
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14. Well I've been reading about a connection between HSV1 and Alzheimer's
so I wonder if lysine would be good as a preventative measure against AD? Some scientists are suggesting that people with a genetic factor that is a risk factor for AD (ApoE E4) and who are also infected with HSV1 are at even greater increased risk of AD.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:00 PM
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18. I haven't a clue about it's effectiveness against Alzheimer's but
it would be great if something helped with that dreaded disease.

I always have the virus,though,the Lysine just helps with the outbreaks.

So far,so good for me on the A.D. though, and I'm pretty old.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:04 PM
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19. What if that's what prevented you from getting AD?
How cool would that be? It's possible, you never know! :thumbsup:
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:05 PM
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20. You never do know but I like to think it is my cigarettes. :-)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:12 PM
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23. That's true, nicotine is good for AD too
Check this out, someone actually has this hypothesis already:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2987503/?tool=pubmed

Could lysine supplementation prevent Alzheimer’s dementia? A novel hypothesis

Abstract

There is a growing body of evidence that implicates the herpes simplex type 1 virus (HSV-1) in the development of Alzheimer’s dementia (AD). HSV-1 has been found to be present in the cerebrum of the great majority of older adults, and in many of the same areas of the brain that are affected by AD. When active, the virus may contribute to the formation of the neuro-fibrillary tangles and amyloid plaques characteristic of AD. Like AD, HSV-1 encephalitis may cause long term memory loss. HSV-1 replication is suppressed in lysine-rich/arginine – poor environments, and population studies suggest that diets high in lysine and low in arginine may be associated with lower rates of AD. There are no prospective studies of the efficacy of lysine supplementation to prevent or reduce the incidence of AD. Supplementation with adequate doses of lysine could prevent the development of AD.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:40 PM
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28. That article is marvelous, a real keeper for me. Thank you so much.
Now I'm even happier about my lysine intake----it was just a cold sore preventative for me but the Alzheimer's facts are a revelation.

I've bookmarked it and will refer it to other people my age,and younger.

As the article says,it is inexpensive,and with my 25 year history with it there doesn't seem to be any harm done.

I have slowed down but I'm basically very healthy.

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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:51 PM
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16. When you feel a cold sore starting
take three lysine tablets a day for three days and it will usually stop the outbreak. (1000mg tablets)
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:55 PM
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17. Good advice.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:38 PM
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26. Campho-phenique. I've never had a cold sore, but a few times I thought I might be getting one...
A few times I got a sore-like spot on my lip, like maybe I'd be getting a cold sore. I wasn't sure what it was. But every time I put campho-phenique on the area, and overnight the sore area went away. That area burned a bit when I put the campho-phenique on it.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:17 PM
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32. FWIW, the Lysine thing probably has other factors involved.
In controlled tests, lysine has no significant effects. In uncontrolled tests (i.e., the real world), many people swear by it.... so there's likely some other interaction going on that is getting "controlled" out somehow.
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:08 PM
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4. product my friends swear by.........
I do NOT get cold sores, but I have friends who use cold sores begone and love it.

http://www.coldsoresbegone.com/
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RobinL Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:00 PM
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29. I use Cold Sores Begone too
.... and swear by it. When you apply it when your lip first tingles, it somehow aborts the infection and the sore doesn't emerge. It's topical, and for me, I apply it once and the tingle stops. I get it online also but have seen it at Whole Foods Market.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:11 PM
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5. I got one once, recently, after being exposed to a person known to yave HS type 2
It was small and went away in about four days.

Statistically, the probability that I had never been exposed to HS 2 before was vanishingly small, assuming that about 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 adult women are carriers (and most don't know it.) About 16 partners is sufficient to achieve a 99% probability of exposure.

I am probably carrying it but don't have outbreaks.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:14 PM
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8. When you say "exposed to"
Edited on Fri May-06-11 04:14 PM by Duer 157099
is that a euphemism?

How easily does it spread? I've read that it requires skin-on-skin contact, but is this so? Can the virus shed onto a surface and then be picked up by someone?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:39 PM
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27. Direct contact of vaginal fluid and saliva from an infected person with unprotected skin
Edited on Fri May-06-11 05:47 PM by slackmaster
is that a euphemism?

No.

How easily does it spread?

Good question. Check this blog out. It's a bit unconventional but has some good information.

http://blogs.webmd.com/genital-herpes-intimate-conversations/2006/12/who-should-be-tested-for-herpes.html
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:14 PM
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7. I read a statistic that claimed 95% of all adults have HSV 1.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 04:15 PM by BlueIris
I also read somewhere that because of the allegedly high rate of infection in the population, those who somehow test negative may have a natural immunity.

I don't get cold sores. Don't envy those who do (seems unpleasant.)
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KathieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:16 PM
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9. I know it's a high percentage. Many people just carry it but don't have outbreaks.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:07 PM
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21. I must be one of those immune people.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:30 PM
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11. only once in my life
but shouldn't this be lounge topic.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:45 PM
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15. I can never tell the difference between Lounge and GD topics
I figure if the mods need it elsewhere, they're not shy about moving 'em.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:31 PM
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12. I don't believe I've ever gotten one (nt)
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:36 PM
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13. I remember getting them as a kid
But I don't think I've ever had one in my adult life.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:07 PM
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22. Nope, never have.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:20 PM
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24. I DID. But since I started taking l-lysine daily in 2004, I rarely get them, and when
I do they are TINY and don't last long. And since then, I rarely get canker sores anymore either.

L-lysine interferes with herpesvirus replication by blocking uptake of arginine, another amino acid, which is essential to herpesvirus replication. Very cool and sneaky way of fighting the damned thing.

Doesn't cure it, but it's the next best thing. And I recommend it for my feline patients with feline herpesvirus infection - helps them a lot, too.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 05:34 PM
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25. Is a cold sore and a fever blister the same thing???
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:13 PM
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31. I think so
pretty sure.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:12 PM
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30. used to but not any more.
For years I got them once in a while, but now it's been years since I had one. I'm assuming it stopped when I stopped eating meat :D :headbang:
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:18 PM
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33. Triggered by stress and/or sunlight

Abreva is IMHO fantastic.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 11:06 PM
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34. I get acne around my mouth at times that some have compared to a cold sore but it isn't.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 11:59 PM
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35. Haven't had one in years and have only had two or three in my whole life. nt
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:20 AM
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36. No, but I get canker sores like a motherfucker.
Bad ones, in batches of four or five at a time. They're bad enough I've gone a few days without eating before.
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 02:35 PM
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37. coldsores+herpes+...
chickenpox+shingles are the "Herpes group of viruses+ and are all in a way related. I stay out of the sun as much as possible or always put on a lip balm with spf 15. This has worked so far but the virus can "go to sleep" and then recur.

this is a good article about cold sores and related herpes viruses:

http://www.dentist.net/coldsores.asp

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 06:52 PM
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38. Oddly enough, a real good cure for
cold sores which is no longer available, is a smallpox vaccination. For reasons not fully understood, getting a smallpox vaccination about every six months would stop cold sores dead in their tracks for those who were prone to them.

Me? I never get cold sores.
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