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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:37 AM
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Ketamine’s antidepressant effect explained
By Laura Sanders Web edition : Wednesday, June 15th, 2011

The anesthetic ketamine works against depression by quickly boosting levels of a brain compound that has been linked to the condition, a new study in mice shows. The research may lead to highly effective and fast-acting antidepressants that provide relief within hours instead of weeks, scientists report online June 15 in Nature.

Traditional antidepressants can be effective but often take weeks or months to improve symptoms. “You can control malignant hypertension within minutes; a bad increase in blood sugar, bad migraines, asthma attacks, within minutes,” says psychiatrist Carlos Zarate of the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Md. “Yet why in psychiatry should we be satisfied with, ‘Just hang on for a few weeks or a few months, and you’re going to get better?’ That’s not acceptable in my mind.”

The new study may point to faster alternatives, Zarate says: “Here is increasing evidence that you can go more directly at the target, and that’s maybe why you get more of a rapid antidepressant effect.”

Mice receiving a single injection of ketamine showed fewer signs of depression just half an hour after the shot, and they continued to show multiple signs of reduced depression for a week, researchers at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas found. For example, after one dose of ketamine, mice struggled longer to stay afloat in a beaker of water instead of giving up and sinking.

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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:42 AM
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1. Interesting test they have there, but...
I'm not sure how they arrived at a cause-effect relationship between depression and struggling to stay alive.

Would not a stimulant produce the same effect? :shrug:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:43 AM
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2. Exactly how do mice show depression? n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:45 AM
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3. Keep reading.
According to the authors, anyway.
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Howler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 10:01 AM
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4. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 10:03 AM by Howler
Well.The scientists have finally discovered what party people have known for decades. :rofl:
Timothy Leary anyone? HHHHHHOOOOOWWWWWLLLLLLLLL. At 51 years old thats a perscription I could fully get behind.They can keep the beaker though.:( Poor mice.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 10:13 AM
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5. Sign me up!
Edited on Sat Jun-18-11 10:15 AM by Pharaoh
Finally the drug companys are going to give us the good stuff!

And how the fuck do you know when a frickin mouse is depressed?

Ketamine Effects

At low doses, Ketamine is a mild, if weird stimulant. It is in the same class of drugs as PCP (Angel Dust), DXM and nitrous oxide (laughing gas). At medium to high doses, it becomes a very powerful paralyzing psychedelic. Its effects are like a combination of cocaine, cannabis, opium, nitrous oxide, and alcohol.

http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ketamine/effects.htm
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 10:15 AM
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6. vitamin K. nt
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 10:11 PM
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10. Ketamine NOT vitamin K - Myphyton is vitamin K which is important in blood clotting
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 11:50 AM
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7. "mice struggled longer to stay afloat in a beaker of water instead of giving up and sinking. "
Human trials begin next month in Afghanistan.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-11 09:14 AM
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9. +1
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-11 01:37 PM
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8. 10,000 iu daily of Vitamin D.
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