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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:17 PM Original message |
If homeopathic remedies work so well, then what would be the problem with the FDA regulating them? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because the big pharma houses don't have a financial stake in them. nt |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I don't trust the influence of Big Pharma on the FDA. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That's my point. We've seen what horrors "safe" drugs have |
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johnd83 (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Big pharma is really the problem, not the FDA |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yeah, it's better than nothing, but I think it's largely inefficient, |
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johnd83 (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Small government at your service! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Got logical fallacy? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. "Alternative" remedies should sink all on their own. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Uh, what about big placebo? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. They swindle people into an elaborate game of "Good Cop, Bad Cop". |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Recommend |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. BAM. Right there. K&R. nt |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. Because water is regulated by the EPA? |
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targetpractice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Ding! Ding! Ding! |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. We have a winner! |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
7. they are regulated by the FDA |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. They are not regulated in the same way, though. |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. to answer a few questions (according to homeopathic theory): |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. . |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'll pass on the info from the internets, thanks. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. So you'll ignore basic science, and just about everything else that science has discovered. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Deleted message |
FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, I have a problem with companies swindling people out of billions of dollars a year. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. Sales in homeopathic remedies in the U.S. is in the BILLIONS? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
83. The industry itself says it had sales of $300-450 million in 2003. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. As usual, you miss the point of homeopathy |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Minor ailments that are generally self-limiting and go away on their own. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
47. You have a strange idea of cause and effect |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #47 |
86. Pure hogwash. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Yes, that site IS pure hogwash. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:00 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Wow! I was so wrong. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Are you smoking crack? |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. The entire concept of homeopathy is bunk. Explain to me, how diluting something millions of times |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Of course it' dosen't make sense... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #54 |
87. You "predict?" |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. Oh, dear |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Yes, your need to push baseless beliefs upon other is arrogant. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
45. They're NOT drugs would be a major reason too. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. That "paradigm" is magical thinking. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Yes, that's what some people think, and call it. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Are you religious? |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. None of your business |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Alternative medicine and religion have many parallels |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Both populated by ... |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #55 |
96. you most certainly are religious, and you prove it with every post |
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johnd83 (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. A lot of homeopathic products are scams |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Natural remedies and homeopathic remedies are not the same |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. *sigh*. If homeopathy were proven to be effective, the laws of physics would be turned completely |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. It has been proven effective. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I'm waiting to see the scientific consensus. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. No, it hasn't been proven effective. |
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johnd83 (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. SOME treatments have been proven effective. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. The placebo effect in action. |
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johnd83 (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Actually not placebo |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The full spectrum of evidence says otherwise. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Pharmaceutical companies are pretty keen on |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. If that's the case: |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Ahem. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. All of them are, there's just nothing in it. |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-28-11 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
35. It's funny, if homeopathy actually worked, "big pharma" would be making money hand-over-fist on it. |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Exactly. It would be so much cheaper to produce and the profit margins would be huge. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-29-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Bingo! n/t |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Because they can't patent it -- there's where the money is |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. The homeopath companies seem to make plenty of money. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Oh, clever, clever. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. "costly clinical studies" |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. The cuerrent supplement/homeopathic businesses |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. LOL! |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. You science types sure have certain weak logic skills |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. You remind me of a creationist. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Actually, my mind is a lot more open than yours |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 01:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. The funny thing is that homeopathy has been disproven. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Oh, no, no, no |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You're funny. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. No, it would work perfectly well -- |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. You don't seem to understand that the principles of homeopathy themselves are false. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. No, the pinrciples of homeopathy |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. And now you're trying to have it both ways. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. You're not reading with clarity or crtical thought either |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. You're all over the place. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. If the laws of physics won't allow your magic to work, |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I believe all businesses should be regulated and held accountable. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Are you claiming to be pro-science or something? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Nope, just pro-regulation. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 10:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. There again, you've completely missed the reality of what I've said |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. No, you just don't like the reality of what you've said. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Here, let me try it on you |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 06:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Ah, I love the smell of desperation in the morning. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. The answer is yes, of course |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:03 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. No, they aren't being regulated and held accountable. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. What, you think they should be non-profit or something? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. In this case, it does mean it's a scam. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Nope, I just want the same standard applied to all. |
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Remember Me (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Tha't not what you want at all. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 06:44 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. LMAO |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
43. It IS regulated by the FDA. |
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