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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:06 PM
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Rick Perry & Mandatory Gardasil Vaccine Controversy
Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 09:23 PM by MN TN
This is one thing I agree with Michelle Bachmann about.
See the following article:
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/otherviews/130472348.html

"Commentators tout lives theoretically saved by vaccines, then fail to express concern for people disabled or killed by vaccines."

"According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, as of June 22, 2011, VAERS (the FDA's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System) received 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil vaccination. A total of 2,799 adverse events were classified as "Serious," including encephalopathy (brain damage); 98 deaths have been reported."

"Unfortunately, the girls injured by HPV vaccines have little recourse, largely because their vaccine injuries are not investigated by the CDC. In addition, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is slow and contentious, and rejects most claims."

In Texas, its like they are forcing experimental drugs on these young girls as if they are laboratory animals. And then, of course, the drug industry benefits big time.

Here is another article "Rick Perry's Gardasil Problem"
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/06/04/rick_perrys_gardasil_problem_110089.html


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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:15 PM
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1. Nice try with the editing there
Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 09:17 PM by PSPS
The FULL quotation goes like this:

As of June 22, 2011, approximately 35 million doses of Gardasil® were distributed in the U.S. and VAERS received a total of 18,727 reports of adverse events following Gardasil® vaccination: 17,958 reports among females and 346 reports for males, of which 285 reports were received after the vaccine was licensed for males in October 2009. VAERS received 423 reports of unknown gender. Of the total number of VAERS reports following Gardasil®, 92% were considered to be non-serious, and 8% were considered serious. (From: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html)

So, in other words, in exchange for a lifetime immunity from HPV and the cancers it causes, one must take a 0.05% chance of an "adverse" reaction of any kind, and a 0.004% chance of something "serious." You do realize that the annual flu shot has greater risk than this, I hope.

Maybe you, like most of us, will try to tar Perry with any kind of "controversy." But this isn;t going to fly. Regardless of his motivations, this vaccine is a wonderful thing and all girls should get it.


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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:27 PM
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3. Young girls should not be forced experimental drugs on them by drug industry
Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 09:42 PM by MN TN
The article you read was not the same as my link.
This vaccine has not been around very long and no one don't know yet what the LONG RANGE effect is going to be.
In the mean time, the drug industry is making Big Money
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:04 AM
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11. Gardasil is well past the experimental stage.
In order to be approved for general use, a vaccine needs to undergo rigorous testing for both safety and efficacy. That testing lasted for years and Gardasil passed both those benchmarks with flying colors.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:08 AM
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13. Experimental?
Edited on Tue Sep-27-11 12:15 AM by HuckleB
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:11 AM
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14. Sorry, not experimental, nobody is "forced" to do anything.
I think your pizza is on the way.
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Major Nikon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:41 PM
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8. Not only that, there's nothing to show a causal association with the vaccine
In other words, the reports considered "serious" may or may not have anything to do with the vaccine. The actual rate of serious complications directly related to the vaccine could be far lower than 0.004%. The drive to the doctors office would be considerably more risky than this vaccine. But leave it to the anti-science morans like Bachmann and the author of the OPs article to try to make mountains out of molehills.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:18 PM
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2. "forcing experimental drugs"
How many other things do you agree with Michelle Bachmann on?

Because if you believe this loony bullshit, you'll probably believe anything.
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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 01:49 AM
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15. Read the article - Perry signed an executive order mandating this
Just do a search on the internet.
How many things do you agree with Rick Perry on?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:31 PM
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4. I agree that this vaccine should not have been mandated so soon
after its approval, when its safety in the general population under uncontrolled conditions had yet to be proven. (The final stage of testing occurs after a drug or vaccine is released.)

I also think the reason Perry pushed for this was because of his supporter's connections with Merck, which wanted their vaccine widely adopted before the competitor's product came on the market.
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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:34 PM
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5. Also, remember Hormone Replacement Therapy?
It was approved by FDA and had been used for many years on women until they found out strong link between this drug and both heart disease and cancer.
By then, the damage had already been done.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:40 PM
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MN TN Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:45 PM
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9. Right. Hormone Replacement Therapy was not forced onto people
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:49 PM
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 09:38 PM
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6. The HPV epidemic must end now.
Vaccination is the only way in reality, because barrier protection doesn't provide full coverage for both sexes. The virus continues to be spread, even when condoms are used. Dental dams may provide benefit, but they are not often used like they should be.

In reality, vaccination is the only way.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-11 12:07 AM
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12. Nope, it's more important to spread RW fear memes.
Michelle Bachmann is a foremost expert on vaccination issues, after all.
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:11 AM
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16. When healthy young girls die within days of getting the vaccine
people should take notice. When they go into convulsions just trying to get up and walk away after getting the vaccine, people should take notice. We shouldn't continue doing the shot waiting for somebody to spend a bunch of money to 'prove' the shot is harmful.

People at least need to be thoroughly forewarned of the known reactions, or coincidences, whatever you want to call them and then be allowed to make up their own minds.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:25 AM
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17. Correlation is not causation.
How many times does that have to be pointed out?
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