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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:28 AM
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Mail order diseases
Idiocy, plain and simple. If you're doing this to your child you should be arrested for child endangerment.

Doctors and medical experts are concerned about a new trend taking place on Facebook. Parents are trading live viruses through the mail in order to infect their children.

The Facebook group is called "Find a Pox Party in Your Area." According to the group's page, it is geared toward "parents who want their children to obtain natural immunity for the chicken pox."

On the page, parents post where they live and ask if anyone with a child who has the chicken pox would be willing to send saliva, infected lollipops or clothing through the mail.

Parents also use the page to set up play dates with children who currently have chicken pox.
Full story: http://www.kpho.com/story/15896021/cbs-5-investigates-mail-order-diseases
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:34 AM
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1. Yikes
Apart from the risk to the children in question, I'd worry about others being exposed; e.g. postal workers handing the packages.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:38 AM
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2. This, is F'en insane. What a bunch of ignoramuses roam the planet. I would
classify anyone doing this as a terrorist and take appropriate action.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:45 AM
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3. LOL.
:popcorn:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 08:42 AM
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11. To be fair, this used to be done for protection against smallpox.
Didn't it? Isn't that how the first "vaccination" came about?

So it could be sort of a cultural remnant.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 04:47 PM
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12. No. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:12 PM
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13. Yeah, I guess that was cowpox for smallpox. nt
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 06:52 PM
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14. And it wasn't done the same way. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:13 PM
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15. Yep, no Facebook back ther. nt
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:38 PM
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16. Or anti-vax loons. n/t
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 07:39 PM
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17. Oh, there were plenty of those, even then. -eom-
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 09:58 PM
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18. But back then they were anti-inoculation loons.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 10:06 PM
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19. +1
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:57 AM
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21. Or vaccinations even. nt
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 12:06 PM
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4. I dutifully infected my little sister
But that was entirely accidental when I was 11 and she was 2. I can't imagine someone intentionally infecting their kids with anything. Every time parents I know hear of something going around school they discuss it with dread.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 09:14 PM
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7. My mom & her sisters intentionally exposed all my female cousins & myself
to a younger cousin when he came down with German measles (aka Rubella) - but that was before the MMR vaccine. At the time, none of us figured out what they were up to as we were usually kept away from sick kid. Rubella is a fairly mild disease in a child, the biggest risk is to a fetus if its mother gets the disease. So that was why we were all exposed, mother & the aunts all thought it was the only way to protect us from running the risk of getting it at a much later date when we were pregnant.

But, as I said, that was before the vaccine.


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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:27 PM
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5. I dunno, I've heard this same rumor going around for years. Never seen any proof.
There always seem to be stories about this sort of thing going around; proof is rather lacking though, which makes me consider it suspect. It's easy for some local news outlet to run an "outrage of the week" story like this without bothering to see if it's true.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:44 PM
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6. The Facebook group is at least real
It doesn't have very many members (about 1,000) and seems to serve mostly as a clearinghouse of vaccine misinformation from all the usual sources. They do seem to be trying to organize "Pox Parties". I don't know how successful they are, but from what I understand from discussions I've had with anti-vaccination parents this is not uncommon. I don't see a lot of evidence of live virus contaminated food and objects being sent through the mail, but there are a couple of postings and they do have a disclaimer on the info page.

My best guess is that it's probably going on, but represents a very small and highly marginalized minority.

FB Group: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Find-a-Pox-Party-in-Your-Area/125145780870717
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 12:14 PM
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22. Um - OK?
Here's the thing, it is one thing to arrange this for your own children, but quite another to send bio-harardous material through any common carrier or mail....

I have heard about this for a few years now. We try to discourage it when we can, but realize that we also need to be prepared incase the parents ignore that advice. After all our patients are not the parents (usually) but the kids. I have never understood any family practices that refuse to see any patients that aren't 100% compliant on this one issue but are fine with less compliance on other issues.


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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:38 PM
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8. More anti-vaxer stupidity.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:38 AM
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9. Idiots. Sending live viruses through the mail is not really bright and is illegal.
Aside from the "we all survived so what's the big deal" idiocy.
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 12:00 AM
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10. one of the early episodes of south park was about this
the kids found out the parents had intentionally infected them with chicken pox so they decided to get even. as I recall it was that one of the parents had herpes and the kids somehow put it on all their parents' toothbrushes.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-11 10:20 AM
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20. About twenty years ago,
when my older son had been through at least three rounds of chicken pox at his school and not gotten it yet, I was planning a spring break trip to visit my sister in another state, who had kids the same age as mine. She called me up the night before I was going there to tell me her oldest had just broken out with chicken pox, in case I wanted to cancel the visit.

Nope. I headed there and exactly three weeks later my two sons broke out in chicken pox within hours of each other. I'd already seen how much sicker a teen got if they came down with chicken pox at that age, rather than younger.

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