Encyclopedia of American Loons: #1 Mike Adams

[HuckleB]

http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2010/05/1-mike-adams.html

This says all that should need to be said about the guy and his wacky website.

[astral]

1. Don't be afraid of Mike Adams.

I don't care what you think of his OPINIONS, that is one thing. His website has a lot of vital information that is essential that it become common-knowledge, which it isn't yet. You are missing out on a wealth of info by scorning his site.

Some random links (all found on his site):

SUPERFOODS
http://www.naturalnews.com/superfoods.html

CORVALIS FARM-TO-SCHOOL PROGRAM
http://www.consumerwellness.org/PR14.html

FREE E-BOOKS
http://www.truthpublishing.com/Articles.asp?ID=131

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
http://www.naturalnews.com/hfcs.html

WHAT IS MSG?
http://www.naturalnews.com/034272_MSG_monosodium_glutamate.html

MORE THAN 20% OF AMERICANS ON PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS
http://www.naturalnews.com/034278_psychiatric_drugs_adults.html

THE FDA EXPOSED
http://www.naturalnews.com/011401_Dr_David_Graham_the_FDA.html

INTERMITTENT FASTING FOR LONGEVITY
http://www.naturalnews.com/034277_fasting_longevity.html

SUNSCREEN
http://www.naturalnews.com/032815_sunscreen_chemicals.html

THE RAWSOME FOODS BUST
http://www.naturalnews.com/033220_Rawesome_Foods_armed_raids.html

HEALTH DEPT ORDERS ORGANIC FEAST DESTROYED BY BLEACH
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/quail-hollow-farm-raided-without-a-warrant/

[HuckleB]

2. He has been proven to be ridiculous and FOS repeatedly.

His website is worthless. Please do not push this scumbag's crap on those who don't know any better. There is no excuse for it.

[BuddhaGirl]

3. "worthless" is your opinion

As Astral stated, there is good info on it.

[HuckleB]

5. Again, the evidence is clear. He is a scam artist who does not understand the most basic science.

It's not just my opinion. I understand that evidence is not your thing. Nonetheless...

[astral]

6. What is wrong with any of the links I have posted?

I just skimmed some links to grab in a hurry before I left for work today so I'm not saying these are his 'top 5 links' or anything, just a cross-section kind of example of what people can learn from visiting his website. And of course, there is always the danger of one good link leading you to another .... and another.

When you make a full-time job of debunking him, you are always bringing his website to the forefront for curious minds who don't know anything about him, and they will go 'hmmmm. . .' and CLICK.

I have been very awed by the huge piles of uncommon information he throws online on a continual basis. He is totally awesome, even if he is a bit extreme and radical in his way of expressing himself.

Never throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Never think we are already in the age of enlightenment and already know it all.

We are just barely beginning to learn through the scientific method that Life is waaaay more fabulous and mysterious than we can even imagine it is.

This is one of the greatest websites out there for bringing us the incredible new knowledge right at our fingertips.

Of course there is also the very old knowledge that is still ***TRUE*** as well.

Hey, HuckleB, thanks for the topic! ; )

[HuckleB]

8. Who cares what's wrong with them?

Mike Adams is scum (as many people have shown you over the past few months, but you choose to ignore the evidence), and I've yet to read anything by him that is not FOS. I do not have to read even more to know the reality.

Stop trying to push this scumbag on others. It's not ok.

His is the worst of the anti-science web sites: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4283

[BuddhaGirl]

10. "Never throw the baby out with the bathwater"

Indeed! But to some, even the Mayo Clinic is suspect because they endorse certain alternative treatments...OH NOES!! :eyes:

[HuckleB]

12. And another pointless red herring.

Got distractions from reality? :rofl:

[BuddhaGirl]

14. ah, your usual defense mechanism

hey, whatever you want to believe ;-)

[HuckleB]

15. And now reality is defined as a "defense mechanism."

"Must move goalposts." :rofl:

[BuddhaGirl]

16. I'm glad your reality amuses you so much

that's really the goal of the game! :thumbsup:

[HuckleB]

17. I appreciate your kicks!

And your desire to ignore reality is mildly humorous.

[BuddhaGirl]

21. the "kicks" are just you preaching to the choir

so enjoy. You are also free to to offer your opinion as to my "reality", but always remember that's just what it is :hi:

[HuckleB]

22. Awwwwwwwwww.

I love the fact that you need to convince yourself of that.

:rofl:

[BuddhaGirl]

28. awwww...I love the fact that you need to believe that!

:rofl: :rofl:

[HuckleB]

30. As usual, you pretend that evidence doesn't exist.

Keep laughing and kicking! Thanks!

[trotsky]

4. He also opposes President Obama's healthcare reforms.

He should not be trusted as an authority on worm food, let alone human health.

[CanSocDem]

7. What reforms...????

Turning healthcare over to the pharmaceutical industry?? You should check back in when the USA actually has a "healthcare" program.


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[trotsky]

18. Making sure no one can be turned down for a pre-existing conditions.

Keeping premiums affordable.

Amazing how many times I see screaming right-wing talking points right here on DU, opposing the efforts of our Democratic President. Disgusting.

[CanSocDem]

19. Y'see....

I don't think you are in a position to know what is and what isn't a progressive healthcare system. If you are accusing me of "screaming right-wing talking points", it is because, in a free-market system, you are forced to rejoice over really insignificant aspects of a program that is just one scam setting up the next one.

Free yourself from the free-market and then you'll be in a position to discuss valid public health strategies. I am truly sorry that you have to settle for crumbs but please don't pretend that you're 'dining at the Ritz'.

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[trotsky]

20. Good luck with that straw man!

I hope you beat him!

[HuckleB]

9. Mike Adams Takes On “Skeptics”

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/mike-adams-takes-on-skeptics/

Adams is against science and against progressive ideals. He is among the worst of the worst.

[BuddhaGirl]

11. Well, both lists are kind of stupid

the skeptics one and Mike Adams LOL

[HuckleB]

13. Great, well thought out response!

:rofl:

It's interesting to note how much you are defending this ignorant scam artist.

[astral]

23. It would take me all night to pick apart this link, but it could be done.

I suppose people are either going to read directly from his website or they are not. He is certainly getting an inordinate amount of attention from his skeptics! I admit his presentation can be way over the top, which even I find kind of barfy sometimes. He is overly-passionate in his tone, I agree (not that I think that's a bad thing.) On every item pasted there on that link there are huge amounts of background information on the topcs being brought up there that people can research for themselves, either using the naturalnews.com website or finding the information elsewhere.

We are even arguing here that toilet water is no different than spring water? (How hopeless is that for a starting point?) The scientific studies on the nature of water will blow your mind, but you do not have to believe any such science exists and you do not have to look for any information on the topic if you would prefer not to have your mind blown.

Words, thoughts, negative energy, positive energy, vibration -- there are so many things about these concepts that we have barely begun to even realize yet. Water is one medium that we are learning from. It can teach us the things that we can't see otherwise. And it is being studied.

Human beings HAVE healed themselves. Children HAVE been vaccinated against their parents' will. (It doesn't sound like they are actually attacking him on fluoridation, anti-depressants for infants, our immune system, pregnancy as a disease, or hypnosis. They are just upset at his radical tone of voice. I call those types of arguments out as red herrings.)

Dead foods vs living foods= I'm with Mike. (Who among us can not know about this?)
Genetically-modified foods= People fight this debate because they are confusing our 'modifying foods for thousands of years' as the link contends, with what genetically-modified food really is: mixing genetic material from animals, toxic chemicals, insects (for cripes sake!) plants, funguses, jellyfish, (ETC!), and having these changes allowed to become contaminated with and inter-bred with what is found in nature and in conventional farming methods. We can't put that genie back into the bottle, no matter what the consequences are. Anyone educating themselves on the matter would not be so cavalier about it ever again. (And come on, how can they be comparing putting pesticides ON crops with genetically-modified foods? Not that I approve of pesticides.)

If this health forum is about debating real topics, and I mean the health forum here on DU, why shouldn't we learn about the topics we want to debate on, and look at the NEW information that is out there in the world, and take into account we don't know it all yet, otherwise there would be nothing to debate. Even the skeptics may have to learn something that changes their opinion once in awhile. (Could happen!)

It was not that long ago in human history we believed the Earth was flat, that drawing blood by leeching would cure us of disease, that burning witches at the stake would protect us from their evil powers. The very first hand-held calculator was invented in my day, who would have imagined computers and cell phones?

Do we think only Big Pharma can tell us what we need to know?

[HuckleB]

24. I like it. Blah. Blah. Blah. Blah. And then... anti-science red herring.

Goodness, but you're not fooling anyone that's not already been fooled.

[astral]

25. Jeez, you posted that response before I even finished reading mine.

I am not trying to fool people. I really believe what I believe. You like my term red-herring, do you? Well, let's agree to have a debate on the topics at hand, here, and you know we can debate Mike Adams The Person, which of course was what this thread is supposed to be about, or we can take any of the more interesting items thrown in the mix by the debunker-link and discuss one topic at a time, with some research and some links.

We all have a lot to learn.

Maybe the topic of "water" would be a terrific one to start with. I may not go on with this tonite because my mind is tired from this having been a weekday.

[HuckleB]

26. That's a nice confession.

:rofl:

[laconicsax]

27. Wait...you didn't read your own post before posting?

:rofl:

[astral]

29. Are we derailing the topic here or what?

I like to look once more at my post right after I click the post button, seeing it like it will look to others. My point was a real one, you posted the snarky reply before I could finish reading it so that tells me you like to post snarky replies without reading the post you are replying.

You snark, you.

[HuckleB]

31. My post came 11 minutes after your post.

Thus, your entire attack here has fallen to floor and broken into pieces.

Yes, you have successfully derailed the discussion from the topic of the fact that NaturalNews and it's leader are shite, and that there is no excuse for anyone to pretend otherwise.

[astral]

32. Look, I am not lying, I do not know what the 11-minute difference means.

I believe this is a "discussion" board. Disagreeing with your OP derails the topic?

I maintain that I posted my topic, then clicked on it to read it over again, and then when I went back to the thread there was your reply, and in MY MIND, over here in MY UNIVERSE, I had to post back at you because I went, "Hmmm, there is a response to the post I just made already." That means that you didn't read the post before you posted.

You have to address the topic in order to have a discussion. You can claim I have "Attacked" you here (!) I have "Derailed" the topic, "Made Excuses," and "Pretended" and none of those things here are true.

Are there any items in the topic that you DO want to discuss?

[HuckleB]

33. Hogwash.

Pay attention to reality.

Start with the reality that NaturalNews and its main purveyor are anti-human assholes!

[SidDithers]

34. He seems to be working through an alphabetical list...

We're up to McLeroy.

Will Mercola be making an appearance soon? Smart money says yes.

Sid