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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:28 PM
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what vaccines do for the world.
http://www.who.int/topics/immunization/en/index.html



Immunization is the process whereby a person is made immune or resistant to an infectious disease, typically by the administration of a vaccine. Vaccines stimulate the body’s own immune system to protect the person against subsequent infection or disease.

Immunization is a proven tool for controlling and eliminating life-threatening infectious diseases and is estimated to avert over 2 million deaths each year. It is one of the most cost-effective health investments, with proven strategies that make it accessible to even the most hard-to-reach and vulnerable populations. It has clearly defined target groups; it can be delivered effectively through outreach activities; and vaccination does not require any major lifestyle change.
More about immunization

Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus.
Related links


:: More about measles

:: Measles Initiative




It remains a leading cause of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine. An estimated 197 000 people died from measles in 2007, mostly children under the age of five.

Measles is caused by a virus in the paramyxovirus family. The measles virus normally grows in the cells that line the back of the throat and the lungs. It is a human disease not known to occur in animals.

Targeted vaccination campaigns have had a major impact on reducing measles deaths. From 2000 to 2007 about 576 million children who live in high risk countries were vaccinated against the disease. Global measles deaths decreased by 74% during the period. The largest health gains occurred in the eastern Mediterranean and Africa where measles cases and deaths fell by 90% and 89%, respectively.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs289/en/index.html
from '06
A number of new vaccines with major potential for controlling infectious diseases have just been licensed or are at advanced stages of development. Among the illnesses targeted are rotavirus diarrhoea, pneumococcal disease, and cervical cancer (as caused by human papillomavirus), which together kill more than a million people each year, most of them in developing countries. In addition to these efforts against diseases of global importance, progress is being made on a vaccine for the regional menace posed by meningococcal meningitis serogroup A, which causes frequent epidemics and high rates of death and disability in African countries south of the Sahara.

These advanced candidate vaccines are the focus of the information provided below. However, it should be noted that continuing, intensive efforts are under way to develop effective vaccines for AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis, dengue, leishmaniasis, and enteric diseases, among others and to adapt new technologies to improved formulation and delivery.

Vaccine development proceeds through discovery, process engineering, toxicology and animal studies to human Phase I, II, and III trials. The process can take more than 10 years, depending on the disease. The human trials focus initially on safety, involving small groups of people (I); then progress to moderate-sized "target" populations (persons close to the age and other characteristics for whom the vaccine is intended) to determine both safety and the stimulation of immune response (II); and finally to large target populations to establish whether a vaccine actually prevents a disease as intended (efficacy) (III).




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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:33 PM
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1. No one deny's the great value of most vaccines.
but there are always side effects. Not every vaccine is needed nor can everyone have every vaccine due to allergies.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:48 PM
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3. "most vaccines"?
Which vaccines don't have great value to someone?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:23 PM
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6. I agree completely with the point that not everyone can be vaccinated...
but that's all the more reason why as many as possible who *can* be vaccinated should be. (I support free provision and encouragement, not a mandate for most vaccines.) If most people are vaccinated, then those who can't have certain vaccines due to allergies or immune disorders, or who are too young to have had these vaccines yet, will be protected by the 'herd immunity'.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:49 PM
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8. Also although veterinarians do not vaccinate when an animal is sick
Nurses in pediatrics clinics will vaccinate the kids when mom or dad brings them in with an illness. "Let's get it all done while they are here!" the nurse says so cheerfully, stressing the convenience of it all.

This can set the child up for a more serious cold or flu, and some researchers believe that it also set the child up for cancer or diabetes.

Giving vaccinations as a combination shot is also a rather foolish idea. But again, convenience over health.

The filth, bacteria and viral contamination in the vaccination laboratories is another problem. Don't take my word for it - the San Francisco Chronicle ran an excellent series of articles on this problem some seven or eight years back. Inspections by the Federal agencies are infrequent and announced - so the fact that laboratories still flunked says a lot about how sloppy the vaccine industry really is.

BTW, if you exclude the research accumulated about measles in the barrios of Central America from research of measles in the USA, you can see that measles mortality is rather low. The companies pushing vaccines believe that it is okay to use malnourished and already sick children as part of the population sample in their efforts to "prove" how much children need various vaccinations.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:51 PM
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9. Another matter:
Vaccines should never be given in bulk, especially to infants.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:01 PM
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10. Why? n/t
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:09 PM
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11. Well for one very important reason
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:42 PM by truedelphi
At least one of the "healthy baby" vaccines given to newborns is not necessary.

Not only is it not necessary, the vaccine for Hep B actually causes more harm and death than the disease of hepatitis B itself would cause for middle class infants.

World class statitician Michael Belkin, who lost his daughter to the Hep B vaccine, crunched the numbers and found out (after his daughter's death from that vaccine) that more children are harmed from that vaccine than would even come down with the disease

After all, for a ababy to come down with hep B, he or she would need to engage in unhealthy sex practices, share needles or have a mother who does that while the baby is in utero, for the baby to come down with hep. The mothers who have hep B should be screened for, and their children given the vaccien, but the other kids should be left out of the mix.

Link is here (His testimony to Congress)
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/belkin.html
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:19 PM
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12. Part of that is not true, and part is unbelievable.
But I doubt that you can figure out which is which.

:hi:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:26 PM
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14. Consider the source.
How many times has whale.to been cited this week?














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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:41 PM
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15. May I point out that this link leads you to the recorded testimony of Belkin
Before the Congress of the United States? Or is the Congressional record now tinfoil?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:48 PM
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17. I'll save you the trouble by posting their vaccination "flow chart":



How dare I question such obviously impeccable research.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:54 PM
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18. You are aware that the ACIP allows for mainly industry advocates to serve
Unlike the same type of advisory committee in Japan, which at least until three years ago, kept the industrialists out of the mix.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:03 PM
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19. Is Jenny McCarthy on the Committee?
How about Andrew Wakefield?

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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:12 PM
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22. Quite right about Japan - and lo and behold, their vaccination schedule differs only in detail from
the American one.

True, they don't have routine vaccination against Hepatitis B or (I think) chicken-pox- but they do have routine vaccination against TB and Japanese Encephalitis. For the rest, their schedule seems pretty similar to the American one. And British and other Europaean ones also have most of the same vaccinations.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:06 PM
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20. Just because he said it to Congress doesn't mean it is true.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 04:06 PM by cosmik debris
Link to the studies that prove your point, not to hearsay.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:44 PM
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16. 30% of adult Hep B cases are not associated with any identifiable risk factor n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:07 PM
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21. Why are you linking to whale.to?
Firstly, they are not merely anti-vaccine, but hostile to ALL allopathic medicine. They even attack Pasteur!

Secondly, they are a FAR FAR right site. The racism, antisemitism, sexism and homophobia of some of the articles needs to be seen to be believed!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:41 PM
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24. The link i provided went to Congressional records.

Which is all I was trying to do. Honest.
I choose the link because it was short - saving me the trouble of going to tinyurl.com and making the link conversion and then coming back.

I was in a rush. I didn't mean to give wholesale approval to everything at that site.

Mea Culopa. My bad. It won't happen again. Okay?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:48 AM
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27. So I guess you don't have any real evidence
Like scientific studies, peer reviewed journals, or similar references.

Do you really expect to be believed based on hearsay?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 01:44 PM
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2. kick
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:03 PM
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4. Everyone knows that the WHO is just made up of Bush appointees.
:sarcasm:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:04 PM
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5. and Shills -- don't forget Shills --
they'll get their feelings hurt.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:36 PM
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7. Exactly.
They're just trying to get poor people all over the world addicted to vaccines so...uh...they'll live longer and healthier lives so, umm, then have to have buy viagra and gardisil.

Or something like that. :eyes:



Must I add this? :sarcasm:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:24 PM
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13. So how much WHO stock do you own?
Or do they pay you to shill for them?














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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:36 PM
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