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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:55 PM
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Anatomy of a Scare--Newsweek's history of antivax hysteria.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/185853

Some of my favorite parts of the story:

The first cracks in the vaccine theories of autism appeared in early 2004. An investigation by British journalist Brian Deer in The Sunday Times of London revealed that the children Wakefield described in the Lancet study had not simply arrived on the doorstep of the Royal Free. At least five were clients of an attorney who was working on a case against vaccine makers alleging that the MMR caused the children's autism. In addition, two years before the Lancet paper Wakefield had received £55,000 from Britain's Legal Aid Board, which supports research related to lawsuits. After meeting with Deer, Lancet editor Richard Horton told the British press, "If we knew then what we know now, we certainly would not have published the part of the paper that related to MMR … There were fatal conflicts of interest." On March 6, 10 of Wakefield's 12 coauthors formally retracted the paper's suggestion that the MMR and autism were linked.


The charges against Wakefield were the least of what was undermining the vaccine theory of autism. What would eventually become an overwhelming body of evidence showing that childhood vaccines did not increase the risk of autism began to pile up. In 2002 scientists led by Brent Taylor of the Royal Free reported that their study of 473 children had found no difference in the rates of autism between those who had received the MMR and those who had not, providing "further evidence against involvement of MMR vaccine in the initiation of autism," they wrote. Scientists in Finland, studying 2 million children, reached the same conclusion in a 2000 paper. So did scientists at Boston University, studying the medical records of 3 million children, in 2001. In 2004 a study of the medical records of 14,000 children in Britain found that the more thimerosal the children had been exposed to through vaccines, the less likely they were to have neurological problems. Also that year, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in the United States, having reviewed 200-plus studies, rejected the vaccine-autism hypothesis. Not only did it find no evidence of a link—and, indeed, evidence against the existence of a link—but it took aim at the original 1998 Lancet paper by Wakefield's group. Because autism symptoms typically appear at the same age that children get the MMR, the panel said, it was inevitable that some children would first show symptoms of autism soon after being vaccinated. Coincidence is not causality.


On Feb. 12 Special Master George Hastings Jr. announced his decision in the Cedillo case. Every study conducted to test Wakefield's MMR hypothesis, he concluded, "found no evidence that the MMR vaccination is associated with autism." And the evidence "falls far short" of showing a thimerosal connection.


Much. much more at the link above.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 04:57 PM
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1. Allow me to be the first to K&R
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:47 PM
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2. Interesting, although highly suspect.
There's no way on earth that, "In 2004 a study of the medical records of 14,000 children in Britain found that the more thimerosal the children had been exposed to through vaccines, the less likely they were to have neurological problems." I'm sorry, I don't buy it for one second.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:33 PM
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5. Why? n/t
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 08:56 AM
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13. crickets. n/t
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:26 AM
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7. Since the rates of autism have risen since thimerosal was removed from routine childhood vaccines,
it would seem to be consistent with the current science on the matter.

David
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 05:49 PM
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3. One more and it'll be off to the Greatest.
Edited on Sat Feb-21-09 06:03 PM by beam me up scottie
"In 2004 a study of the medical records of 14,000 children in Britain found that the more thimerosal the children had been exposed to through vaccines, the less likely they were to have neurological problems."

Millions of children from different countries/continents were studied, and the anti-vaxxers still think "belief" = evidence.












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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 09:16 AM
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8. It has become a religion for some.
Their faith is so strong that it can resist any challenge regardless of the overwhelming evidence against them.

Perhaps we should start moving the antivax threads to the R/T forum. They are no longer about health issues, just about faith.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:57 PM
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12. They should be relocated to R/T forum or the dungeon.
Denial is legion in both.
















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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 06:14 PM
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4. Happy to be rec #5...
but isn't Deer just a "witch hunter"?

Sid
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 07:02 PM
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6. "The research didn't hold up, but some wounded families can't move on."
Hmmmm... that sounds a lot like some our favorite trolls.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:25 AM
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9. recommend
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 03:27 PM
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10. A good piece, especially for Newsweek.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 08:09 PM
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11. There has been a lot of whining about
citing Murdoch papers so I tried to find a more mainstream source.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:33 PM
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14. Funny that advocates of jabbing 10 y/o girls with a vaccine to prevent
sexually transmitted disease are calling the pro-safety lobby hysterical. For example, chicken pox went from a rather benign disease for most children, to a "feared" condition simply because we developed a vaccine.

I suggest the hysterics come from the "vaccinate every person with every vaccine no matter what" lobby.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 02:40 PM
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15. Probably the same people who advocate using a condom when having sex to slow transmission of HIV
when we all know that most people don't have it.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:01 PM
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16. Given condoms don't have serious side effects, and HIV is considered incurable,
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 03:02 PM by mzmolly
I don't quite buy the "hysterical" comparison between the two. However, now that you mention condoms ...

"Condoms Highly Effective Against HPV, Study Shows."

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2102991

I'm all for advocating in favor of practicing safe sex. In fact, I hope the new HPV vaccine will not lead a reduction in the use of condoms and regular pap smears?

http://cancer.about.com/od/cervicalcancerbasics/a/survivalrates.htm

"Cervical cancer is one of the most preventable types of cancer. With regular Pap smears, cervical cancer can be prevented in just about all cases."
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:08 PM
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17. Paps find cancer, don't prevent it. People get those confused all the time
A pap smear tests for cancer cells.The theory is to find them while they are still in a minorly changed condition, but they are looking for abnormalities. They FIND cancer, or abnormal cells. They in no way prevent cancer, any more than mammograms prevent cancer. Paps are screening tools to detect cancer, hopefully early enough to be dealt with or monitored to see if there are further changes.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:29 PM
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18. Paps can actually detect pre-cancerous lesions
thus, leading to prevention.

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_6x_cervical_cancer_prevention_and_early_detection_8.asp?sitearea=PED

Although cervical cancers start from cells with pre-cancerous changes (pre-cancers), only some of the women with pre-cancers of the cervix will develop cancer. The change from pre-cancer to cancer usually takes several years - but it can happen in less than a year. For most women, pre-cancerous cells will remain unchanged and go away without any treatment. Still, in some cases pre-cancers turn into true (invasive) cancers. Treating all precancers can prevent almost all true cancers. Pre-cancerous changes and specific types of treatment for precancers are discussed in the section, "Can Cervical Cancer Be Prevented?"

....

The goal of screening for cervical cancer is to find cervix cell changes and early cervical cancers before they cause symptoms. Screening refers to the use of tests and exams to find a disease, such as cancer, in people who do not have any symptoms. Early detection means applying a strategy that results in an earlier diagnosis of cervical cancer than otherwise might have occurred. Screening tests offer the best opportunity to detect cervical cancer at an early stage when successful treatment is likely. Screening can also actually prevent most cervical cancers by finding abnormal cervix cell changes (pre-cancers) so that they can be treated before they have a chance to turn into a cervical cancer.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 03:57 PM
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19. I know, and also said that. They are a screening tool to detect cellular changes.
Having been on the giving and receiving end of (oh wtf is it called? Using that microscopic thingie to visually check a vagina) after getting a suspicious pap, I know. Like any screening tool, it can prevent further problems by showing abnormal things. Detecting cancerous or precancerous cells earlier is a good thing. BUT, just because you get paps doesn't mean you prevent cancer.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:14 PM
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21. Paps can prevent
cancer given proper intervention. There is no debate about that.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:02 AM
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27. Finding precancerous cells is a good thing.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 04:12 PM
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20. I know you can't back that up, but I feel like I have to ask...
For example, chicken pox went from a rather benign disease for most children, to a "feared" condition simply because we developed a vaccine.


Really? Link?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:23 PM
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22. Really.
Though I don't need a link to remind me that me that chicken pox was not feared prior to mass vaccination, here is one for you:

http://www.who.int/topics/chickenpox/en/index.html

"Chickenpox is relatively benign in children..." ~ WHO
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:32 PM
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23. That doesn't support your statement that
"chicken pox went from a rather benign disease for most children, to a "feared" condition simply because we developed a vaccine."

Sure you supported the first part of your statement, that it is considered benign in children. But you did not support the contention that it became a "feared" condition simply because we developed a vaccine.

Keep digging.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:43 PM
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24. I can't demonstrate that you fear chicken pox, but
Edited on Thu Feb-26-09 05:44 PM by mzmolly
I can demonstrate that Merck promoted fear in order to sell the vaccine.

"Chicken-pox vaccine ad plays on fears"

"Back-to-school season means it's time for ... a television commercial exhorting parents to vaccinate their children against that potentially deadly disease, chicken pox. A recently launched ad sponsored by Merck features shots of a weeping rubber duck and several dejected-looking stuffed animals while a female voice warns that "children can die from the serious problems caused by chicken pox."

The TV spot and two companion print ads are timed to coincide with the beginning of the school year, a Merck spokeswoman said, because that's when parents are most likely to have their children immunized to meet vaccination requirements."


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1N1-0FF678FCAA76DB49.html



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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:47 PM
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25. But that's not what you said.
Never mind, I knew you were blowing smoke.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-09 05:58 PM
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26. I think I've
backed up my assertions quite well. I thank you for asking me for more information. :hi:

Cheers
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 09:29 PM
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28. Evening kick...nt
Sid
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 04:04 AM
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29. kick
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