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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 10:03 AM
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PLACEBO - Mind-Body Medicine

Imaging Technologies Bring Empirical Rigor To The Study Of A Mysterious Medical Phenomenon


Forensic Psychiatry & Medicine - Dec. 9, 2002

The placebo effect baffles patients, confounds clinicians and frustrates drug developers. Until now, relatively little empirical evidence existed for the biological mechanisms that underlie the effect. But recently, researchers have begun approaching the challenge with methodological rigor. Understanding the biological basis of the placebo effect has potentially wide-ranging implications.

PAIN AND PLACEBO

Researchers have already reported intriguing findings. For years, opioids were known to play a significant role in the placebo effect in some contexts. In 1978, scientists demonstrated that an opioid blocker called naloxone could abolish the placebo effect in a pain experiment. A 2001 study demonstrated that the simple interaction between patient and practitioner has measurable effects in the brain. Researchers in Italy, led by Fabrizio Benedetti, found that "open" injections of analgesics (patient-witnessed) were significantly more effective and less variable than "hidden" injections (patients were ignorant of injections). Furthermore, they showed that by blocking the opioids, naloxone greatly reduces this open-injection placebo effect, suggesting that the therapist-patient interaction activates the endogenous opioid systems. "We are beginning to understand what happens in the patient's brain when he or she interacts with his or her therapist," says Benedetti, a physiology professor at the University of Turin Medical School.

In 2002, a Swedish research group caught the relationship of pain and placebo in action using positron emission tomography (PET), and showed that placebo and opioid analgesia may have a common neural mechanism. Nine subjects were exposed to standardized, brief, nonharmful, painful experiences. They received either no treatment or an injection of either placebo or analgesic. Subsequent PET scans indicated activation of the rostral anterior cingulate cortex for both treatments, though analgesic did provide more pain relief.


PLACEBO AND DEPRESSION

Researchers gave 17 severely depressed men either placebo or fluoxetine (Prozac). Scans taken at one and six weeks showed that both groups exhibited increased activity in the cortex and decreased activity in limbic regions, but only patients given fluoxetine experienced changes in brain stem, striatum, and hippocampus. "Drug is placebo plus," explains lead author Helen Mayberg, a psychiatry and neurology professor, University of Toronto.


http://www.forensic-psych.com/articles/artPlaceboeffect12.02.html When you open this link you will see three PET Scan images (upper left) for comparison showing the height of opioid treatment (left image), high-placebo responders (middle image) and nonresponders (right image).




PLACEBO AND PARKINSON

National Institutes of Health

Physiology of Expectancy (Placebo Response)


Placebo effects are believed to be mediated by both cognitive and conditioning mechanisms. Until recently, little was known about the role of these mechanisms in different circumstances. Now, research has shown that placebo responses are mediated by conditioning when unconscious physiological functions such as hormonal secretion are involved, whereas they are mediated by expectation when conscious physiological processes such as pain and motor performance come into play, even though a conditioning procedure is carried out.

Positron emission tomography (PET) scanning of the brain is providing evidence of the release of the endogenous neurotransmitter dopamine in the brain of Parkinson's disease patients in response to placebo. Evidence indicates that the placebo effect in these patients is powerful and is mediated through activation of the nigrostriatal dopamine system, the system that is damaged in Parkinson's disease. This result suggests that the placebo response involves the secretion of dopamine, which is known to be important in a number of other reinforcing and rewarding conditions, and that there may be mind-body strategies that could be used in patients with Parkinson's disease in lieu of or in addition to treatment with dopamine-releasing drugs.


National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine article: http://nccam.nih.gov/health/backgrounds/mindbody.htm (scroll down)



Here is the Parkinson/Dopamine study abstract:

2002 Nov 15;136(2):359-63.

Dopamine release in human ventral striatum and expectation of reward.


de la Fuente-Fernandez R, Phillips AG, Zamburlini M, Sossi V, Calne DB, Ruth TJ, Stoessl AJ.

Pacific Parkinson's Research Centre, Vancouver Hospital and Health Sciences Center, University of British Columbia, Purdy Pavilion, 2221 Westbrook Mall, Vancouver, BC, Canada V6T 2B5.

Using the ability of <11C>raclopride to compete with dopamine for D(2)/D(3) receptors, we investigated by positron emission tomography the effect of placebo (saline) injection on dopamine release in the ventral striatum of patients with Parkinson's disease. We found evidence for placebo-induced dopamine release of similar magnitude to that reported in healthy volunteers after amphetamine administration. However, in contrast to the dorsal striatum, there were no differences in <11C>raclopride binding potential changes between patients who experienced the reward (those who reported placebo-induced clinical benefit) and those who did not. We conclude that the release of dopamine in the ventral striatum (nucleus accumbens) is related to the expectation of reward and not to the reward itself. These observations have potential implications for the treatment of drug addiction. Copyright 2002 Elsevier Science B.V.

Publication Types:
PMID: 12429397

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12429397&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum


Just a placebo?


(edited for brevity)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:21 AM
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1. Yes, just a placebo
That's why we do such rigorous double blind studies in the field. The placebo effect is a very real one and was recognized long before we had PET scanners to quantify it. Drug trials establish not only safety, but whether or not a medication is any better than the placebo effect.

Both the group getting the drug and the group getting the blank pill will experience improvement. If the group getting the drug experiences significantly more improvement than the control group, the drug is deemed effective. If nobody gets sick from it (or dies), the drug is deemed safe.

We've always wanted to be able to harness the placebo effect, to target it, to increase it. After all, our own brain chemistry is going to be safer than any targeted poison out there. The studies of how to accomplish this are in their infancy, though.

And yes, it's just a placebo.
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:06 PM
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2. Yes, placebo is real and powerful. "Drug is placebo plus"...
Which suggests that patient expectations should be deliberately positively reinforced prior to treatment in order to achieve full therapeutic benefit:

Swedish study leader Martin Ingvar says his research is partially motivated by shortcomings in patient care and a troubled drug industry. "In spite of more and more effective medicines, patients are complaining about less and less effects," says Ingvar, a cognitive neurophysiology professor. "Explaining all drug effects by pure molecular mechanisms will underexpose the effects of drugs."

http://www.forensic-psych.com/articles/artPlaceboeffect12.02.html



"We've always wanted to be able to harness the placebo effect, to target it, to increase it. After all, our own brain chemistry is going to be safer than any targeted poison out there." Yes, indeed.

Thank you for your comments.



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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:36 PM
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17. Yes
Exactly. But lots of patients will look at you VERY funny if you go far down this road. They then think you're trying to 'trick' them and that medicine may just be like a 'magic show'.

DOES mean that giving someone a hug before you jab them with a needle wouldn't be bad at all!
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:45 PM
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18. OK, let's start with the hug. Then, maybe with some acting classes...
we can get a little father down that road!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:08 PM
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3. It's almost like the mind and body are related somehow ... nt
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:13 PM
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4. Yes, almost... What a strange idea!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 12:21 PM
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5. Heh.
:thumbsup:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:02 PM
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6. On violating autonomy.
But is it wrong to use the placebo effect to therapeutic benefit if the only way to be able to do it means violating the autonomy of the patient?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:12 PM
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7. Perhaps if you elaborate a bit.
I have a picture of an MD given a patient a sugar pill while saying it is the latest thing for his condition, and I can't say I'm inclined to stress over that one way or another. And it is not my experience that the medical "system" cares a fig about patient autonomy, it's more like "how can we crank them through faster" than "let's make sure the patient understands what's being done to him".
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:38 PM
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8. Sure.
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 12:08 AM by varkam
Sorry, I guess the word autonomy is a bit ambiguous. First, I'll just say I agree with you that the system in practice might not care at all about patient autonomy...but in a perfect world...

Basically, people have all sorts of reasons for going to Doctors. Well, okay, for most everyone it's to get better - but people have different priorities in how that's accomplished. Some people might want to have a medical treatment regardless of the pain or costs (surviving is #1 priority), whereas others might want treatment in accord with their religious beliefs, cultural norms, etc. Some forms of using the placebo effect to maximize therapeutic effectiveness are paternalistic assumptions in that the physician assumes that the patients #1 priority is to get better faster. The placebo effect might help that to happen, but it might also violate someone's top priority (say, having their physicians be honest with them about their treatment).

So, is that wrong then? If someone's #1 priority in their medical treatment is for their physicians to be honest with them, then is it wrong to use certain forms of placebo (such as sham-surgeries)?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 11:51 PM
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9. Welcome, varkam.
I see you bring the same insight to this forum that I've seen you exhibit elsewhere on DU.

It is sorely needed here.

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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:10 AM
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10. Insight? Me? Huh?
You're making me blush, BMUS. :blush:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:18 AM
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11. In a perfect world then ...
The patients autonomy should not be violated. I'm a big fan or personal autonomy. But autonomy is not something that someone can give you, you have to take it. Thus, an autonomous patient will seek to understand and control his treatment, and in that case the physician should cooperate. For a patient that wants to be taken care of, the physician may well be more assertive. In both cases I see little wrong in a little dramatization. A sham surgery seems more problematical, there have to be limits on the fraud committed.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 12:22 AM
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12. But sham surgeries are performed.
Typically with pain patients (i.e. arthritis), and they do help alleviate pain - significantly so.

But don't you think that the right to autonomy is something inherent? If there are universal human rights, shouldn't that be one of them? I agree that, practically speaking, you might have to prod a patient along every now and then - but I don't think that is the same thing as making paternalistic assumptions on their behalf.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 08:50 AM
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16. To cut to the chase:
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 08:52 AM by bemildred
The right to autonomy is inherent, but, whether or not one is in fact autonomous is not, it's something you do or do not do, and it is a matter of degree, not kind, we are all more or less dependent. We are born helpless, and there is no blame for those who take care of us and protect us from our own foolishness. Then we grow to this or that level of independence and competence, and then, if we are so lucky, we live long enough to become somewhat dependent again.

It is also a matter of feeling rather than fact, if one feels autonomous, then for all practical purposes, one is. There is no objective measure that one can apply externally to discriminate ambiguous cases. It's like being "free", it's an opinion about ones situation.

Now, if a physician does a sham-surgery and it helps the patient, and the patient does not mind, who am I to question that? Would I not be interfering in their autonomy were I to butt in?

In the case of the physician-patient relationship, it is wrong when the physician assumes an authoritarian role as a right and attempts to compel the patient to obey. But it is not wrong if the patient comes seeking a master and the physician obliges as well as he can.

The question is: whether one is thwarted in carrying out ones well-considered and firmly felt intent, or whether someone attempts so to thwart us, either in considering what we choose to do or in carrying it out; so you will see that it depends on the intentions of the parties involved.
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:35 AM
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13. We discussed in an earlier thread...
Here is the answer I gave at that time. Post #11:

My thinking is that expectancy could potentiate the benefit of the drug. As you point out, the use of placebo effect can get into a paternalistic assumption. But, if the drug is being prescribed anyway, it seems like a good questionnaire and screening could avoid this trap by uncovering the patient's true goals thereby allowing allopathic medicine access to a powerful tool.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x4850#4883



Also, see my new post Harnessing The Placebo Effect - Deliberate use which addresses some of this.

Dr. Brown doesn't seem to be very concerned about this issue.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x5656

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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:41 AM
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14. I realize that we discussed this an earlier thread
I thought I would get other's opinions on the matter as well.
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RedOnce Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 02:42 AM
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15. Good idea!
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