Poor kids and psych drugs,Big Pharma money and Nami,board member resigns in protest

[undergroundpanther]

MindFreedom International News - 12 December 2009
Unite for a Nonviolent Revolution in Mental Health
http://www.mindfreedom.org - please forward


(1) New York Times: Poor Children FOUR (4) TIMES More Likely to be
Given Neuroleptic (Antipsychotic) Psychiatric Drugs

Today's NY Times, 12 Dec. 2009, exposes the outrage that children on
Medicaid are four (4) times more likely than kids on private insurance
to be put on the super-powerful neuroleptic psychiatric drugs,
popularly known as "antipsychotics."

Read the article here:

http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/youth-mental-health/antipsychotic-kids

Research has already shown that African Americans of all ages are far
more likely to be put on these powerful psychiatric drugs than whites,
including court-ordered forced drugging.

In the last decade, alarming medical research has mounted indicating
that long-term high-dosage neuroleptics are linked to significant
shrinkage of the frontal lobes, the part of the brain which is thought
to make us human, the same area of the brain targeted by the infamous
lobotomy.

While MindFreedom is pro-choice on people's taking prescription drugs,
the evidence for neuroleptic-induced brain damage are almost never
disclosed to patients, their families, the media or elected decision-
makers.

These "inconvenient truth" brain damage medical studies -- confirmed
by repeated animal studies, brain scans and autopsies -- are now well
known throughout the medical field, but are almost never explained to
the general public, who are often the ones to pay for these expensive
prescriptions.

In the middle of the biggest health care debate in USA history, here
is a concern that ought to unite both left wing and right wing.

So why haven't the big mental health advocacy organizations like NAMI
warned the public about this? Read on....

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(2) NY Times: NAMI Board Member Resigns Over Drug Money Scandal

Earlier this week, on 8 December 2009, The New York Times reported
about psychiatric drug company influence in major nonprofit
organizations.

The NY Times article reported that a board member of NAMI, the large
mental health advocacy group, resigned in protest over the undue
influence.

H. Richard Lamb, a professor of psychiatry at University of Southern
California, was a NAMI board member since 2005. At the time, NAMI had
a policy of keeping their high level of psychiatric drug money secret,
even from their own members.

However, earlier this year a Senate investigation forced NAMI to
reveal that certainly more than half -- and as much as two-thirds,
says the NY Times -- of their money was secretly from psychiatric drug
companies.

Professor Lamb resigned in public protest, saying he was “shocked to
learn that approximately half of NAMI’s income comes from the large
pharmaceutical companies...” He said NAMI officials promised him
change. “However,” Dr. Lamb wrote, “very little has changed, right up
to the present day.”

To read the article, and more info about NAMI, click here:

http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psych-drug-corp/nami/nami-h-r-lamb

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[ThomCat]

1. Every possible way they can find to put poor and minority kids

in chains, they'll do it. No matter what kind of chains. No matter what kind of damage they know it can and/or will cause. No matter what the long term implications and problems will be for those kids and their families and their communities.

:(

This should be crime. It should become a crime. People should be going to join over this.

They have been forcing kids to take dangerous meds that they knew or should have knows were unnecessary solely because of their hatred of poor and minority people. Drugging people against their will with dangerous mind and brain altering drug with bigoted motivations should be a fucking crime!

:grr:

[undergroundpanther]

3. I agree

I was given HUGE doses of these meds,for years...until the doctors admitted I had trauma issues and that all those drugs and methopds failed to help me.. Parents don't like hearing thier own kid is traumatized, especially if THEY had a hand in it or they did nothing to stop it..Far easier to drug out symptomatic memories than to ADMIT to it parents after all can be bad parents sometimes.With the shitty social services and lacking housing,and this myth kids are property and born to be bad,no wonder it comes to this.Parents sometimes DO resent kids,and do not think out the consequences of having kids.The ultimate motive for having kids is indeed selfish.What parent wants to admit that to thier kids?

[cutlassmama]

2. what about kids who genuinely have issues though?

[undergroundpanther]

4. depends

Does the kid have someone they trust? Someone that won't pooh pooh the things that matter to the kid to save some adult's face or some political bullshit or something? Does the kid have a safe place from bullies including child bullies and"professional" bullies? Does anyone listen to the kid and attempt to understand?

If there are not protective and caring people around the kid,Yeah I'd expect the kid to freakout.

There is no physical proof of bad or errant "brain chemicals" causing mental illness.Sorry I know it's populart to think that since pharmacuetical companies made that one up,
Unlike other mental illnesses you can see scars in the brain that are results of trauma. This trauma need not be physical trauma to cause those sorts of scars in the areas they appear when trauma is present. I have PSTD.I take meds,for it.BUT despite that,the scars are still there in every MRI of my head,and some of my symptoms might never go away. It's good for squeamish parents and the 'community' of idiots if the child displays no symptoms to upset adults it's all to easy for parents and"professionals"to say these drugs work so well,see the kid is no longer screaming.. when for me, those drugs just shut my mind off,and silenced the truth for a time.Abuse is what creates trauma which can be seen via MRI,and it is the only mental dysfunction one can prove physically.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/10/health/main5600285.shtml
Trauma is linked to schizoprenia
http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/003563.html
Scizoprenia help without drugs ever hear of Soteria House?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17093778
http://www.moshersoteria.com/soteri.htm#SP

It’s already clear that untreated PTSD can interfere with a child’s normal brain development and increase the risk of other psychiatric conditions such as depression and substance abuse, Carrion concluded.

Some anti psychotics have horrible (like diabeties)and sometimes permanent side effects that permanently can fuck your life up.
like Tardive dyskinesia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_3bbpFjI68

and brain atrophy .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlR4pntJboI

http://psychcentral.com/news/2009/12/09/childhood-ptsd-linked-to-brain-failure/10073.html

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro02/web2/seberhardt.html

[HuckleB]

5. Mindfreedom?

Really?

:shrug:

[undergroundpanther]

6. Yeah really

And they are NOT connected with scientology or any other group.
They help with psych rights,they do a lot to get people justice.They are not ANTI-meds,they think the people whom are taking the drugs should choose what works for them,and no one should be forcing a person's choice one way or the other concering drugs.

To take psych meds it is vital to be informed of the risks of taking these drugs.Many times I was forced to take them and no one brought up side effects or anything and it was years later that I learned of the risk and damage they can do..I take psych drugs now,but I also research the drugs before they get taken.And if they do not help or they have nastry side effects or if they are too risky to take(like black box warnings) I won't take them.My doctor is aware of this and is ok with it.

And I am a member of Mind freedom. I became a member when I learned who they were, and what they are about.I went to a meeting they had at a consumer psych conference called alternatives.I went there as part of a peer support group.I post the emails I get from Mindfreedom here sometimes because it is important to know.
And it is known in the mental health activist community that Nami gets alot of pharma funds.

http://www.furiousseasons.com/archives/2009/10/nami_got_23_million_from_pharma_companies.html
http://www.alison-bass.com/
http://wellnessgossip.com/2009/04/nami-big-pharmas-grassroots-organization/


Wanna know what kind of manipulating SCUM these marketers of pharma companies are?
http://pharmamkting.blogspot.com/2006/08/precision-buzz-marketing.html

Here is my run in with"buzz marketing" on a psych unit as a patient there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2952603

http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/article989451.ece

[HuckleB]

7. Sorry. I'm not buying it.

And neither should you.

[undergroundpanther]

8. I don't trust Nami

Do you? The parents of Nami want to make it legal to lock anyone up by thier word alone. Sometimes for your own good isn't good for anyone.My mom used to be a Member of NAMI.I still get thier nice glossy print newsletters.I know what thier agenda is.

And I also I HATE scientology!!They are a sick ass cult,and they interfere with the genuine people fighting for psych rights with thier cultie crap.I hate scientology.If I had my way I'd have these fuckers shut down and audited.

[HuckleB]

9. I do, generally.

Far more than someone who would make such generalized claims, in the manner you and Mindfreedom have done.

I'm too old for such BS.

[undergroundpanther]

10. Generalized claims?

Umm You are making generalized claims with nothing to backl up your claims.

In my other replies there are links and my own experinces I wrote about.

What makes you think NAMI is innocent when it comes to drug money?
You offer no answer.

Nami had some speakers come to my PRP last year and they rambled on and on about the drugs. Well why would that topic occupy so much of what they said to us?

Maybe because they have been influenced?

Drug companies spend $5 billion annually to send sales representatives to doctors’ offices. Sales reps keep FBI-style dossiers on physicians that include information such as the names of family members, golf handicaps, and clothing preferences. Hard sales tactics and small gifts are part of the pitch. In addition, pharmaceutical companies provide perks (such as tickets to sporting events) and outright compensation to doctors for their participation in the prescribing of particular drugs to their mental health patients.

On another front, pharmaceutical companies are reaping big profits by promoting forced drug use through programs at the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill (NAMI). With drug company funding, NAMI promotes a program of in-home forced drug treatment, called the Program of Assertive Community Treatment (PACT). The money is funneled through a suborganization of NAMI called the NAMI Campaign to End Discrimination. While PACT has some features that clients like, it also puts an emphasis on “medication compliance.” For instance, PACT at times includes daily psychiatric drug deliveries to people’s doorsteps and living rooms, backed up by court orders. PACT enforces medication compliance by visiting clients’ homes daily to stand and watch as clients take their medicine-involuntarily-in their own living rooms. There is a clear conflict of interest here since the pharmaceutical companies are reaping profits from the drugs the patients are forced to take.

The psychiatric drug industry is pouring millions into a NAMI-controlled slush fund, which is the monetary force behind one of NAMI’s central goals: to get PACT into every state by 2002. NAMI leaders claim their hands are clean of drug money.

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/8-drug-companies-influence-doctors-and-health-organizations-to-push-meds/

More people raising the same questions about NAMI

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/10/22/nami-nearly-75-percent-of-funding-from-pharma/

http://www.uow.edu.au/~sharonb/drugcompanies.html

http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/10004316/pfizer-turned-nami-into-trojan-horse-to-push-geodon-off-label-to-kids-suit-claims/

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/18805

http://www.pharmalot.com/2009/10/nami-board-member-was-an-astrazeneca-consultant/

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/buying-influence-how-the-drug-makers-achieve-corporate-mind-control.html

Do you ever question NAMI?