Sodium Fluoride is Toxic - Are There Still People Who Believe Otherwise?

[kerrywins]

Sodium Fluoride is toxic and there is not one shred of evidence that shows that it helps your teeth or bones. On the contrary, there is evidence that shows that it is harmful to your body.
And lethal at about 4g.

How can we move forward and demand that the government stop adding it to our water supply when there are still people out there who don't even know its toxic?

The source that is added to the drinking water is an industrial waste byproduct.

I mean, a quick google search will give you that info.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. Oh good grief.

:popcorn:

[thunder rising]

8. "And lethal at about 4g." Here, try a cerial bowl of toothpaste for breakfast.

Pass that popcorn, quit Bogarting.

[Confusious]

52. Try a bathtub full of toothpaste

I hear it's more filling.

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[Warpy]

2. The John Birchers lost this one in the 50s

Find a new dead horse to flog.

[Cronus Protagonist]

5. Would that horse be circumcised?

I'm just wondering...

[Warpy]

7. Definitely, against its will as it exited the womb

just before it was shot full of thimerosol.

[thunder rising]

11. If the pro-lifers want to give the unborn rights, how about making circumcision illegal before 18.

I was just thinking about, how many of us males would do it if we had the choice.

You want to WHAT to WHAT? Not me!

[Warpy]

14. It's a minor thing to an infant with poorly established pain pathways

and a terrible surgery for anyone out of infancy. That's why they do it to babies.

At least we finally got the docs to use topical anesthetic on the kiddo.

It's also the parent's choice, not yours.

[thunder rising]

18. Nobody asked me.

I'm not Jewish and there is nothing in the New Testament about it.

Hell, I've gone through life without a tattoo, but I've got this. And it's not even a requirement for my Christian religion.

[Warpy]

23. Maybe they did

You didn't answer (after all, you were only a day or so old), so they did the best they knew for you.

[Cronus Protagonist]

30. I wouldn't consider THAT minor, if it had happened to me

"They" circumcise babies because of ignorance and religion, not because they're babies. And they only do it to babies because REAL people (adults) wouldn't allow it, not because it doesn't hurt as much, which is, of course, total bullshit.

[sakabatou]

43. What have we got here....

[marybourg]

3. Oh No. Is this back again? You're probably too young to even

remember cavities. My children, in their 40's, have none. Elderly people used to die from malnutrition because they didn't have enough healthy teeth in their mouths to chew. People in developing countries still do. Please find another hobby.

[thunder rising]

12. Not to mention the policy was put into place when during the draft for WWII there were real

problems meeting the criteria of "2 healthy teeth". That's pretty bad.

[kerrywins]

24. sodium fluoride didn't get rid of the cavities...

calcium helps teeth, not sodium fluoride...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

28. It didn't get rid of them...true.

It stopped them from happening.

[kerrywins]

33. no, it doesn't prevent them either.

[marybourg]

41. You know not of what you speak. nt

[Confusious]

53. Don't know anything about

Sodium fluoride do you?

[stray cat]

4. Tooth decay can kill you

[kerrywins]

27. and sodium fluoride has nothing to do with preventing tooth decay

[HuckleB]

31. Prove your assertion.

[kerrywins]

36. show me proof that it aids the body in anything

[HuckleB]

37. Done below.

[Confusious]

54. Another remark

Proving he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Ian David]

6. The problem isn't the Flouride. It's the dihydrogen monoxide.

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

More:
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Purity of Essence!

[provis99]

17. Dihydrogen Monoxide can kill you...

Stop the killing! Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!

[Xipe Totec]

9. The most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face

Ripper: Mandrake. Mandrake, have you never wondered why I drink only distilled water, or rain water, and only pure-grain alcohol?

Mandrake: Well, it did occur to me, Jack, yes.

Ripper: Have you ever heard of a thing called fluoridation. Fluoridation of water?

Mandrake: Uh? Yes, I-I have heard of that, Jack, yes. Yes.

Ripper: Well, do you know what it is?

Mandrake: No, no I don't know what it is, no.

Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjL9g3s6Fro

[FSogol]

16. Our precious bodily fluids?

:rofl:

[trotsky]

13. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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[trotsky]

21. Hey old stalker buddy!

Good to see you again (briefly)!!!!

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[MineralMan]

15. Booga-Booga.

Thanks for letting us know about your beliefs. Look to your precious bodily fluids.

[sinkingfeeling]

19. Really? That's why all survivors of head, neck, or oral cancer keeping soaking our

teeth in fluoride every night? Funny that every medical doctor, dentist, and maxillofacial surgeon in the country recommends fluoride nightly for those who have had direct radiation to the area of the teeth.

[kerrywins]

25. that is funny, considering it does nothing to help your teeth...

there are many doctors who recommend against sodium fluoride....but I guess they don't count in your narrow opinion?

[sinkingfeeling]

29. Why of course you know better than the American Cancer Society and their researchers. Where did you

get your degree in medicine?


http://jada.ada.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/2/164

[kerrywins]

35. we can throw links at each other all day

http://www.slweb.org/bibliography.html

http://www.fluoridealert.org/hileman.htm

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no2/kauffman.pdf

[sinkingfeeling]

38. Yes, specially if we go all the way back to 1988 (2nd. link of yours). However, none of your

links contain anything about sodium fluoride being lethal when used as instructed. So, I and all the OHN cancer survivors that I know will continue to use sodium fluoride daily.

[kerrywins]

39. there is a link that references the lethal dose of 4g

its one of the references to the links or maybe that pdf file....

I'm not gonna dig it up...even if I handed it to you, it would not change your mind....

you can dig around yourself and find it, if you are interested, which i doubt you are.

[trotsky]

40. Perhaps you could demonstrate to us just how much fluoridated water...

one would have to consume to get a LETHAL DOSE of 4g fluoride.

Please show your math.

Thanks.

[LeftishBrit]

45. Do you know what your third site is?

It is the Journal of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, who describe themselves as the 'voice of doctors against government medicine'.

Undoubtedly, they are against fluoridation because they are opposed to ANY government-regulated health measures.

Their website is full of vicious propaganda against universal health care. They were also activists against the Clintons' attempts at healthcare reform in the 1990s. And going back yet further - against FDR's and Truman's attempts to introduce health care in the 40s. They have consistently opposed *any* government-sponsored health care programmes, including Medicare and Medicaid.

They were also involved in spreading various right-wing medical myths, including the theory that abortion causes breast cancer, and that undocumented immigrants are responsible for the spread of leprosy.

According to Wikipedia's entry on them (yes, it's Wikipedia, but they link to direct sources):

'The AAPS has characterized the effects of the Social Security Act of 1965, which established Medicare and Medicaid, as "evil" and "immoral",<11> and encouraged member physicians to refuse to accept or participate in Medicare and Medicaid.<12><13> AAPS argues that individuals have a right to purchase medical care, that there is no right to medical care, and that a government-mandated entitlement to medical care is unconstitutional and immoral; hence they oppose efforts to implement a national health plan.<14> ... Other procedures that AAPS opposes include abortion<16> and over-the-counter access to emergency contraception.<17>

The organization's Resolution 2001-2 stated that AAPS resolved to "promote the immediate repeal of all laws, regulations, and policies that allow direct or de facto supervision or control over the practice of medicine by federal officers or employees"<18>....

Articles and commentaries published in (their)journal have argued:

that abortion causes preterm birth later in life, and thus birth defects such as cerebral palsy to future children born to women with a history of abortion,<32>
that the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services are unconstitutional,<33>
that "humanists" have conspired to replace the "creation religion of Jehovah" with evolution,<34>
that increased carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has not caused global warming,<35>
that HIV does not cause AIDS,<36><37>
that the "gay male lifestyle" shortens life expectancy by 20 years.<38>


In other words, they are monsters of pure indescribable right-wing evil, obsessed with protecting their own profits and spreading all forms of vicious right-wing myth, whose opinions cannot be relied on for ANYTHING!

[semillama]

49. or in other words

A typical resource for woo.

[marybourg]

42. No. fifty years of success eliminating cavities "don't count", only your out of right

field (that's right, it was a wing-nut conspiracy theory that you're repeating) "counts". sorry. I like my childrens' cavity free mouths. I wish I was young enough to have benefited from fluoride.

[pansypoo53219]

26. all that bottled water meant

higher tooth decay.

[HuckleB]

32. Say what?

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Doi=107932

http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab002280.html

http://www.nature.com/ebd/journal/v5/n2/full/6400250a.html

http://www.jdentaled.org/cgi/content/abstract/67/4/448

[EvolveOrConvolve]

34. LOL!

This is the funniest post I've seen in a long time! Thanks for the laugh!

:rofl:

[Orrex]

44. You're in good company.

[Liberal Veteran]

46. Sodium Chloride is Toxic - Are There Still People Who Believe Otherwise?

[LeftishBrit]

47. Actually...

the amount of sodium chloride that most of us get in our diet is probably a lot more dangerous to our health than the sodium fluoride in our water!

[uppityperson]

48. kick, for a TS'd OP. So sad. Died of flouride excess. sniff

[salvorhardin]

50. So sad

I'll raise a toast of tap water to the dear departed OP -- fluoridated, of course.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

51. Corpse has great teeth though.