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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:42 AM Original message |
Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. No he said vaccines in the same sentence with reproductive health services. |
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hendo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. Good catch, apparently most people missed that |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. Vaccines? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. People live longer with less need to reproduce. Nt |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Ok, that makes sense. n/t. |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. This is absurd |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Have you ever looked at the birth rates of countries? |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. In Africa? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Yes, in Africa |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The irony of someone who quotes naturalnews calling another theory absurd... |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. This article is featured on other sites as well. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. That's the way woo works - it gets repeated on no-name sites all over the place. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Maybe you do 'woo'. I just read as much as I can and express my own opinion. |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. If the source is not credible, it makes the entire article suspect. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. And Engdhal also believes the earth is cooling, and the claims of warming are a plot by the elite |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Sorry, I don't know much about Engdahl, it was just one article of |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The OP article claims its the seasonal flu vaccine in developed countries that is the killer |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Which doesn't detract one bit from the possibility of it having horrendous |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It detracts from its credibility, that's the point |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. What are you talking about???? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. The OP accuses the government who give seasonal flu vaccines of killing people |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Trust issues are one thing. Believing unbelievable fiction-based scares is another. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I know the flu vaccine saves lives. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Uh huh. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. LOL |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Strange how your calculation on what to question doesn't care about actual evidence. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Haven't got a clue what you're talking about, and really don't care. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Conspiracy theory propaganda is only interesting when labeled properly: Fiction. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I understand basic science, thanks. We were always taught with any |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Your posts, and your defense of anti-science websites, indicate otherwise. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Websites? I posted one. Did you see others??? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. And now you're off in red herring land... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. A couple of good books, I'd recommend. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Noted, but will ignore. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Are you going with the "closed minded" routine? |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I'm really not afraid of much, especially your books. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'm sure you actually believe that. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. LOL |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I'm fearful when others push conspiracy theories that could lead to unnecessary deaths. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Exactly. So, you can question something you're fearful of causing harm, |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I am questioning or fearing something that is actually happening. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Hmmmm, indeed. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I figured you would use that 60-year-old example. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I've spent most of my life helping others improve theirs, you really have |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I love blind Internet claims. They're so helpful. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You know absolutely nothing about me, how could your jabs be |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I don't need to know anything about you. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Oh FFS, Like your skeery NaturalNews site has a single thing to |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. And now you're off in another direction. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. No, the article was written by the Natural News editor, Mike Adams |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. I like how posters really get into what's actually none of their business ......... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Newsflash. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. LOL. eom. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. It's good to laugh. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Very good. Thankfully I can laugh and think and question without |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. We established that a long time ago. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
83. Market Oracle? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. +1 |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 12:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
94. An article that equates vaccination with eugenics is also pretty BS-laden. |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. the irony of someone with a name like superduperfarleft being so close minded |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. What exactly is the "elite establishment?" |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. oh you are hilarious 'superduperfarleft' |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I sure am, "Count Olaf." |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. +1,000,000,000,000!!! |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Try to educate yourself on what actual open-mindedness is. |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. some ideas |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Woo woo woo woo woo! n/t |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Or you could pull ridiculuous conspriacy theories out of thin air |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. See, this is what I was afraid of. I don't mind Bill Gates and believe he |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. yes |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
36. You're afraid Natural News' fantasies? |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. No, I'm not afraid of a site you don't approve of. Are you afraid of it? |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. I am always afraid of sites that spread disinformation that can harm others. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Ah, well it's good then I read the same thing on other sites. Thanks for the adivce, again. n/t. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. As has already been pointed out to you, the Internet is full of anti-science disinformation. |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Really???? You don't say. |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. It's a great conspiracy theory, but it has nothing to do with science, with helping people, or ... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
75. Gates also said health care could reduce world population |
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polly7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-07-10 09:51 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. There's nothing anti-science about questioning motives. |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
28. You are either a paranoid Woo, or very funny. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The 'ideas' come from the article |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Parents tend to have fewer children if they can expect all to live to grow up. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:48 AM Original message |
The "P" in that equation is not very reliable |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
15. clearly |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. Unrec for deliberatly misunderstanding the Bill Gates quote... |
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HuckleB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. +1 on both accounts... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think there's any evidence for Gates' claim. Logic and experience suggest the opposite. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. The objective isn't zero CO2... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. Does it occur to Bill Gates that HE is part of the problem? First world citizens |
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Count Olaf (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 11:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I know! These people really piss me off |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
76. What a patent distortion. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-06-10 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
80. People whose children are more likely to survive childhood |
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evirus (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 05:55 AM Response to Original message |
90. the wonderful world of science journalism |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
91. Leave it to "Natural News" to twist words. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-08-10 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
92. Bill Gates is full of it |
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evirus (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-18-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Take any journalism about scientific issues with a grain of salt. |
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