What did Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes say in his famous dissent?

[TaleWgnDg]

.

What did U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes say in his famous Abrams v. U.S., 250 U.S. 616 (1919) dissent? Oh, yes, tis far better to have more information published than it is to have information suppressed/censored. Indeed. Justice Holmes opined that our first amendment's freedom of speech infers it is far better to have a "marketplace of ideas" thus a free flow of ideas, information, publications than it is to censor the minds of the public.

With that in mind, has anyone wondered what the hell all this extremist Islamic behavior is in reaction of? And, most importantly, why have "news media" suppressed what's at issue about all the vitriol? all the riots? all the killings? In other words, have you seen these editorial cartoons that are at issue across the globe?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
(as last visited, Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 3:00 AM EST)

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
(as last visited, Thursday, February 9, 2006 at 3:30 AM EST)
"This is the time line of the 2006 Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. The cartoons were first published by Jyllands-Posten in late September 2005; approximately two weeks later, nearly 3,500 people demonstrated peacefully in Copenhagen. In November, several European newspapers re-published the images, triggering more protests. Labour strikes began in Pakistan the following month, and several organizations criticized the Danish government. More protests occurred in January 2006, and later that month a boycott of Danish goods began. Several countries withdrew their ambassadors to Denmark, and widespread protests, some of them violent, began. The protests continued in February. In Damascus, Syria, both the Norwegian embassy and a building containing the Danish, Swedish, and Chilean embassies were stormed and set afire by protesters. The Danish General Consulate in Beirut was burned down by more than 10,000 protesters." (further list of violent acts are being updated by wikipedia writers as they occur)

For further overview about all the violence, boycotts, and the editorial cartoons at issue, please see: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/religion/jan-june06/cartoons_02-06.html (mp3, streaming video/audio, transcript is available)

Justice Holms' dissent wherein he opined about "a marketplace of ideas" can be read at: http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0250_0616_ZD.html
.

[unschooler]

1. Thanks for all the info. Good post.

[SongOfTheRayne]

2. ARE YOU SERIOUS?

THOSE are the Cartoons? That's IT? Holy FUCK! Damnnnn....aren't we going to have fun having to explain this to the future generation? "World War One was sparked by the asassination of Archduke Ferdinan. Then came World War Two,a war that was caused by Hitler's retaliation against the allied nations. Then, some decades later, World War Three was caused by....um...a doodle." :applause: :nuke:
:wtf:

[TaleWgnDg]

3. Here's a translation . . . into English . .

Here's a (wikipedia) translation . . . into English . . of these cartoons.

From top to bottom (in OP above):

1.) Muhammad as a simple wanderer, in the desert, at sunset. There is a donkey in the background.

2.) Muhammad standing in a gentle pose, dressed in pajamas. A glowing crescent around his turban suggests both a halo and a pair of horns.

3.) The Islamic star and crescent merged with the face of Muhammad; his right eye is the star, the crescent surrounds his beard and face.

4.) Muhammad prepared for battle, with a short sabre in one hand and a black bar censoring his eyes. He seems to be smiling. He is flanked by two women in niqaabs, having only their wide open eyes visible.

5.) Muhammad standing on a cloud, greeting dead suicide bombers with "Stop Stop vi er løbet tør for Jomfruer!" Translated in English: "Stop, stop, we have run out of virgins!", an allusion to the promised reward to Islam martyrs.

6.) A 7th grade Arab-looking boy in front of a blackboard. Sticking out his tongue, he points to the Farsi chalkings, which translate into "The editorial team of Jyllands-Posten is a bunch of reactionary provocateurs". The boy is labelled "Mohammed, Valby school, 7.A", implying that this is a second-generation immigrant to Denmark rather than the founder of Islam. On his shirt is written "FREM" and then in a new line "-TIDEN". Fremtiden means the future, but Frem (forward) is also the name of a Valby football team whose uniforms resemble the boy's shirt. Valby is a district of Copenhagen known for having a concentrated population of immigrants.

8.) A nervous caricaturist, shakily drawing Muhammad while looking over his shoulder.

9.) A police line-up of seven people wearing turbans, with the witness saying: "Hm... jeg kan ikke lige genkende ham" ("Hm... I can't really recognise him"). Not all people in the line-up are immediately identifiable. They are: (1) A generic Hippie, (2) right-wing politician Pia Kjærsgaard, (3) possibly Jesus, (4) possibly Buddha, (5) possibly Muhammad, (6) generic Indian Guru, and (7) journalist Kåre Bluitgen, carrying a sign saying: "Kåres PR, ring og få et tilbud" ("Kåre's public relations, call and get an offer").

10.) A schematic stick drawing of five almost identical figures. Each of them resembles a headscarf seen from the side and has a Star of David and a crescent where the face should be. A poem on oppression of women is attached to the cartoon: "Profet! Med kuk og knald i låget som holder kvinder under åget!", which could be translated as: "Prophet, you crazy bloke! Keeping women under yoke!"

11.) Two angry Muslims charge forward with sabres and bombs, while their leader addresses them with: "Rolig, venner, når alt kommer til alt er det jo bare en tegning lavet af en vantro sønderjyde", referring to a drawing in his hand. In English, his words are: "Relax, friends, at the end of the day, it's just a drawing by an infidel South Jutlander".

12.) Muhammad with a bomb in his turban, with a lit fuse and the Islamic creed written on the bomb. This drawing is considered the most controversial of the twelve.

Asked about its message, the cartoonist later explained:
The cartoon is not about Islam as a whole, but the part that apparently can inspire violence, terrorism, death and destruction. And thereby the fundamentalist part of Islam. I wanted to point out that terrorists get their spiritual ammunition from Islam. There are interpretations of it that are incorrect. The general impression among Muslims is that it is about Islam as a whole. It is not. It is about certain fundamentalist aspects, that of course are not shared by everyone. But the fuel for the terrorists’ acts stem from interpretations of Islam. I think there is no escaping that. That does not mean that all Muslims are responsible for terror. It is about showing a connection, from where the spiritual fuel comes. There are some interpretations of Islam, according to which you become a martyr if you die for Islam, and you can therefore with a calm mind kill the infidels, and you will be rewarded in the beyond. If a religion develops into religious fanaticism we are faced with totalitarian tendencies, as we have been in the past, such as Fascism and Nazism. It is the same situation, where humans have to surrender and do as demanded by the rulers. I think we should fight against that, and the weapon of a cartoonist is this pen or pencil and then a certain degree of indignation. Asked whether the cartoon displays appropriate respect for Islam, the cartoonist commented: It does not respect the version of Islam, that provides the spiritual fuel for terrorists. I have nothing against Islam or Muslims. They should have their freedom, but if parts of a religion develop in a totalitarian and aggressive direction, then I think you have to protest. We did so under the other 'isms. Under communism thousands of satirical drawings and other satire were made that revealed and spoke against it.

. . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy "Descriptions of the Drawings" (as visited Wednesday, March 22, 2006, at 4:50 AM EST)