Challenging corporate "personhood."

[Senior citizen]

A person has the right to face their accuser in court. Not their accuser's attorney or designated representative, but their actual accuser.

So it seems to me that anyone sued by a corporation could merely demand that their accuser, the corporation, appear in court. Not the corporation's attorneys or officers, but the corporation itself. Since a legal fiction is not a person and therefore cannot appear in court, I think that would resolve the issue of corporate "personhood."

[izzie]

1. Seems good to me. When I was in college the trend was-------

that courts and the law were moving to wards people and away from Corp. always doing what they wished but I think we are just going back wards. It seems to be an endless fight to just stay even. People are really going to have to start to care what their govt. is doing. And soon.

[Festivito]

2. It has rights, but not responsibility to face prison -- unfair.

Even the death penalty is meaningless to the souless. Kill us, and all our parts die. Kill a corporation, and its parts do not die. Instead they reassemble anew.

They don't deserve our rights.

[BanzaiBonnie]

3. The view that a corporation has personhood

is demeaning to real and actual persons. It causes the devaluing of actual and real persons. Devaluation of life.

It is of the greatest insult that this all rode in on the 14th amendment.

[ElectricIron Sweeney]

4. Property

If property is a right, then a right is a property, that like property can be alienated. Where property has rights, people become like property, and slaves in fact. Property rights were challenged by our civil war, and by the 14th amendment come out stronger as a result. The question we must all come to terms with is this: does property give rights, and have rights on its own merit; or does the rights of property result from our respect for the person who owns it. If property has rights on its own merit then all the other rights cancel out, and only those with property rights have rights. The process of giving rights to property, and of treating property as persons, literally as corpus, corporations has been growing since Roman times. Yet rights in society have always implied obligation, and began as obligation. The right to bear arms is the obligation to bear arms that has become a right out of our fear of our neighbors. The standard of rights is not carried by property. We do not protect civil rights by protecting property rights, nor can property die in defense of society, nor suffer the loss of civil rights in any fashion; but people do. Property rights point to a concentration of power and wealth in one small portion of society which will grow smaller daily. Power protects wealth. Property once carried this country, and now labor does. Property has succeeded in strengthening its rights while unloading its obligation. We do not need it!

[Poor Richard Lex]

5. confronting your accuser is criminal law

not civil. A civil suit can be brought on behalf of a dead person, for instance.

The whole corporate = person is bullshit though. It is a symptom of how beholden our government is to the corporations who really run the world imho.