I got four mailers in my mailbox today from the NRA. All want me to vote...

[Scuba]

...for Ron Johnson and accuse Russ Feingold of leading the charge to wipe out second ammendment rights.

Baloney.

If owners of firearms want a place to hunt game, they'd better keep the corporatists out of office. But unfortunately, many (most) of them have been fooled by the right.

[Yeshuah Ben Joseph]

1. Is there a phone number on any of them?

If so you should call them and ask them when the NRA started supporting child molesters.

[Scuba]

2. Good idea. I think I'll dig them out of the recycling and do just that.

[derby378]

3. Lest we forget, Feingold consistently opposed a ban on semi-automatics

He has supported other gun-control measures, yes, but this one was a big 'un.

[offog]

8. Yo, derby378 ...

I understand a little German, and I love the quotation at the bottom of your post.

I think it says something along the lines of "Where they burn books, in the end, they'll also burn people." Did I get that right?

[derby378]

9. Ja!

"Those who start with burning books will end with burning men." That's what I understand the translation to be.

And, ironically enough, the Nazis burned many of his works, too, some of which are now considered lost.

[county worker]

4. That kind of speaks the the level of intelligence the NRA thinks gun owners have.

If you take what they say on their word olone, you surely aren't a critical thinker. I think the NRA is counting on that.

[JuniperLea]

6. There seems to be a lot of that going around...

I think most RW politicians are speaking to the dumberer of their flocks. Which is quite scary. What I'm finding really scary is the plethora of Pubbies I know who I have always considered intelligent, yet they are swallowing a hell of a lot of bullshit lately.

[saigon68]

5. Ron Johnson ia a POS

[spin]

7. There are far more uses for firearms than hunting game ...

and many Democrats that own firearms DO NOT hunt.

For example, I have nothing against hunting but have never participated in the sport. I have however, enjoyed target shooting with handguns for 40 years and currently have a concealed weapons permit and carry.

I have always had firearms in my home for self defense and many years ago my daughter, who I trained to shoot, stopped an intruder breaking into our home by pointing a large caliber revolver at him. He ran. No shots were fired.

I have no dog in the fight between Feingold and Johnson, so I will not bother to comment.

Personally I believe that we all would be better to keep the corporatists out of office.

[Scuba]

10. I also keep a firearm close at hand for personal protection....

... and half a dozen more for hunting are kept in my safe.

Many folks here in Wisconsin hunt - deer, ducks, squirrels, etc. All will lose their hunting spots to the corporatists if they are allowed to pollute with impunity. But the fear that Dems will take their guns has been beaten into them for a generation or more.

[spin]

11. At one time that was indeed a possibility ...

and even today many very liberal Democrats want to impose draconian gun laws.

The anti-RKBA movement peaked with the assault weapons ban in 1994. The anger that this law created as well as the interest in semi-automatic firearms that resulted led to a reversal of the direction that gun control was moving.

In that same time frame, "shall issue" concealed carry was sweeping across our nation like a tsunami.



Time and time again those who opposed concealed carry warned that any state that would allow such licenses would turn into the Wild West with shootouts at high noon and on every intersection. When this NEVER happened, the anti-RKBA groups lost much of their validity and influence.

The Republicans seized on RKBA as a wedge issue to bring voters to the polls. It proved a wise and successful tactic and won many close elections.

Today many Democrats in office support RKBA and get high ratings and endorsement from the NRA. The Republicans and Conservatives feel that the NRA has sold them out, but the NRA is a single issue organization and merely support those who support that issue.

I believe that we need to drop support for another assault weapons ban from our party platform. Our party has to move in a different direction and instead of trying to take or deny firearm ownership to honest people, focus instead on criminals and criminal gangs who illegally own and misuse firearms.

We then can take away another Republican wedge issue. WE can be the party that's tough on crime and criminals and the party that has the BEST solution to reducing violent crime in our nation.

Eventually Wisconsin will approve a concealed carry law and its citizens will no longer be second class.

Judge rules concealed carry ban unconstitutional
by WRN Contributor on October 14, 2010

A Clark County judge says Wisconsin’s ban on carrying concealed weapons is unconstitutional. In the case, authorities charged a Sauk City man with carrying a concealed weapon, after he admitted he had a knife in his waistband. He never threatened anyone. In light of the landmark Supreme Court ruling in McDonald v. City of Chicago, attorney William Poss filed a motion to dismiss the case on constitutional grounds. Judge Jon Counsell obliged Wednesday, ruling the law is overly broad and violates both the Second and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution.

“The government has to have a compelling state interest to do so (restrict the right to carry) and they have to have the least restrictive means of doing that,” said Poss. “Public safety obviously is a state interest, but there’s all kinds of ways to do that in this regard.” In his decision, Counsell states the law forces citizens to “go unarmed (thus not able to act in self defense), violate the law or carry openly,” but notes displaying weapon’s openly isn’t a “realistic alternative.”

As of now, the decision only sets a precedent in Counsell’s court, but Poss expects the case will be appealed. “It’s ultimately going to get to either the Wisconsin Supreme Court and or the United States Supreme Court one way or another,” he predicted. The decision was disseminated around the state Wednesday, and Poss already had 50 congratulatory phone messages or e-mails from colleagues by Wednesday afternoon. “There’s a lot of interest in this obviously,” he said. “It’s not a left or right type of thing quite frankly. It’s a liberty thing.”
http://www.wrn.com/2010/10/county-judge-rules-concealed-carry-ban-unconstitutional/

[Scuba]

12. In Waupaca County, Wisconsin the Democrats have a great ...

...fund raiser that involves raffling off firearms. And winning votes.

[spin]

13. That's a great idea! (n/t)