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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:46 AM
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sexist justice system rant
Ok I am being divorced, my wife up and left me due to "irreconcilable differences". My lawyer told me that here in France, as is the case in most places in the USA, that family court lawyers favor women, so that if we battle for custody I have a 2 to 3% chance of getting custody. Why??? because I have a dick between my legs. That is justice????? Lawyer told me that if i get joint custody the ex only has to move away and there will be another custody trial with the same 97 or 98% probability that she will get full custody and that i will have the right to "visit" my own child. The lawyer said the judge may also stick me with child support even though i make just over half what the mother makes and that because I have a dick between my legs it will be difficult for me to get alimony. What the fuck?!?

How is this justice? Why do women have all the power? This is probably why divorces are asked for by women roughly 80% of the time, they stand to lose nothing.

Basically even with joint custody i have to kiss my ex wifes ass until my kid is 18 or she can just up and move away a get full custody by doing so.

I have one card to play as a last resort. There is no extradition between France and the USA. If the mother tries to move away with the kid I will simply take my daughter to the USA with me on vacation and never come back to France or the European Union ever again. You can call it kidnapping if you want, but when the system favors people simply because they have a vagina what are those of us with a penis to do?
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:52 AM
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1. Well at least you don't need to tell us
why she is divorcing you.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:07 AM
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2. i did, irreconcilable differences
other than that i worked whenever i found a job, helped with the chores, took care of our child, woke in the night to feed the kid bottles, was loyal both in spirit and sexually.... what are you getting at?
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:07 AM
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3. dupe
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 07:09 AM by reggie the dog
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:11 AM
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4. You need a better informed lawyer, quickly.
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 07:14 AM by kickysnana
Also, as I told my female cousin who's children are now beyond her reach, advice she ignored, don't post threats on message boards even autonomously.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:20 AM
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9. point taken
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:13 AM
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5. I know. It would be so much better if the woman felt trapped and could never leave, right?? nt
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:20 AM
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8. i feel trapped already, let me explain
i moved to france because i fell in love with a french woman, we married and had a child then she asked for divorce. i want joint custody in the childs best interest, a 50 50 split. i agree to live in france, far from my family and friends in chicago, all i ask is that she agree, for the next 15 years, to remain in the same area, which she can because she has a job she can only lose if she does something sick like beating or mollesting a student so this is realistic. i left my family, my friends, my career, my dog and my pickup 8 years ago to come here and am willing to stay here and not go back to all that so that my daughter has her father in her life. if the woman wants to leave i think she should leave me our daughter as it would be her move that would make joint custody impossible.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:31 AM
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13. Not to seem uncaring, but who cares?
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 07:33 AM by boston bean
You have a child, that you seem more than willing to use as a pawn, to revenge what you feel is an unjustice visited upon you by your wife.

Think about the child. I am sure he/she loves your wife as they love you.

If you don't have any strings to keep you in one place, what the hell difference does it make if some 5-10-15 years she needs to move to another part of France, to keep clothes on your and her childs back.


You have the power to make this about what is best for your child, or you can try to do something that makes you feel good in that one moment. Try not to be selfish.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:43 AM
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15. she will never have to move, she is a civil servant
in france you pass a test and become a civil servant FOR LIFE! i am thinking about the child, i think my daughter needs her mother and me equally so i sacrafice my career to live by her mother who has a post for life. now if her mother moves she is not doing so for work but meerely for a change and if that makes shared custody impossible then she should stay here where we can share custody.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:15 AM
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6. Instead of litigating custody, could you mediate and agree to a joint custody arrangement?
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:17 AM
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7. that is what we are doing now
she has agreed to joint custody in practice but not on paper, so long as the practice holds out we will do one week one week with our kid and i think that is really best for our daughter.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:21 AM
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10. Sounds like your best option if the law won't support you.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:22 AM
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11. that is exactly what my lawyer told me
and is the route i have been going for the past 17 months since my ex left me
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:24 AM
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12. You have joint custody? Then what the fuck are you complaining about?
Well, you'll have joint custody for as long as it takes for your wife's attorney to read your threat about kidnapping, then good luck ever seeing your kid alone again.

By the way, it really sucks to be on the other side of justice, doesn't it? Getting a taste of what women have endured for centuries is a real eye-opener.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:51 AM
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14. +1
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:46 AM
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17. complaining about joint custody only working until the mother decides
to move away, then, unless i follow her, in 97 to 98% of the cases the mother gets full custody and i get the "right" to "visit" my kid
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:45 AM
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16. no woman ever endured this shit from me
so why should i get a taste? my rant is because that my joint custody will fall 97 to 98% of the time the mother decides that she wants to move someplace else. my ex gives me joint custody in practice but does not want the divorce judge to see it in writing, that is part of my gripe but that is with her, the problem with the justice system is the sexism.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 08:58 AM
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18. Women have not endured what he described for centuries under western law
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 09:00 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
Elsewhere is another story.

In other areas of the western law they have been shafted royally.
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