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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 07:49 AM
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Nope. It's DEFINITELY Not Race.
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 08:15 AM by GirlAfire
On the morning of September 15, 2009, said Representative Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.):

In a recent article, conservative commentator Thomas Sowell, an African American, examined some of President Obama's claims about the health care reform legislation moving through the Congress. I wanted to quote some excerpts from his column that I found insightful....


If one opposed to the President's legislative agenda can find a detrimental interpretation of that agenda and its implementation, it is a great thing. It has been done millions of times before and understandably so. However, Foxx's statement goes beyond emphasizing Sowell's points of contention; she also "slips in" a mention of Sowell's race. Why? Why would one make it a point to include such an extraneous piece of info unless (s)he felt it was, in fact, anything but extraneous?
I can answer that rhetorical question: Sowell's race was relevant because, in order to convince those who would hear her message that disagreement with Obama is NOT about his race, she used evidence that even his own kind disagree with him. That is noteworthy because, as we all know, all African-Americans think alike. Even a black man disagrees with Obama, and if a black man can go against his very inclination toward blackness, it must mean that 1) there is really something wrong with Obama's health care reform plans and 2) the criticism levied against him is warranted.

Unfortunately, Foxx's dumb statement and its disgusting underlying assumptions are only the tip of the iceberg of what some Repugs title as anything other than racism:













But, no, it's certainly not about race.

Understandably, the President distanced himself from former President Jimmy Carter's observation that, "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man." And it is only understandable in that his post mandates extreme caution; he could not adopt such a polarizing (oh, what a day; the truth is polarizing) stance without political sanction. But President Carter is absolutely right on both accounts: 1) there is "animosity toward" the President because of his race and 2) and there absolutely is an "overwhelming portion" of it. Of course, on that last point, some of those who would like to dismiss Carter's concerns repeatedly conflate "overwhelming PORTION" and "overwhelming MAJORITY." The former does not mean majority, but it would be so much more convenient for Republicans if it did. And so they proceed as if it does. There is nothing in Carter's statement that strips reasonableness from ALL or a majority of protesters, that posits all or a majority of protesters as racist. But in order to position Carter for the onslaught for dare speaking the truth, they have got to mold what he said into something both offensive enough to justify the attack and similar enough that stupid people buy it.

For many, the White House has been painted a nasty color (guess which), and it's simply too unbearable. No one says "nigger" aloud anymore. It is not tolerated. But they will say that Michelle Obama is trash (our dear Tammy Bruce) and that President Obama is an "undocumented worker" (protesters).

But hey, as long as these people are presenting themselves as protesting tyrannical rule, how could we ever cast them as racists? Right?

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:14 AM
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1. You are correct on all points...Welcome to DU.
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:20 AM
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2. Thanks!
Thank you!

I actually didn't know that if you post in a journal, it posts on the boards too. I suppose this newbie found out the hard way, huh. :P
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:27 AM
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4. You're welcome....I'm glad it posted !
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:22 AM
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3. welcome and....
your myspace link does`t work
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:27 AM
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5. Oops!
Thanks! And sorry about having the wrong link; I'll correct that.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 08:49 AM
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6. Hard for me to follow the thinking on the right
they are not racist because a black person agrees with them. On the other hand the same people call the President a racist, and he is black.
Here is how I look at it. 15% of Americans said they would never vote for a black person for president. I would think that qualifies them as racist. The tea bag movement is made up of 20% of Americans. That makes about 71% of them racist.
Racism is not a black and white issue(pun intended), it is a continuity. You are not either, or. You are more or less.

Following the arguments of the right, their next claim will be that the left is too far to the right. Just watch and see.
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KristinGarris Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:03 PM
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10. I disagree
I think where you get your news determines whether or not you think they are racists. I think most of the people at the Tea Parties, black or white, have a problem with the policies, not race. If you read the Huffington Post, or watch CNN, they are all racists...if you read the Wall Street Journal there are no racists.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:10 AM
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7. Yes, it's sometimes about race. But....
Foxx's pointing out Sowell's race is a typical rhetorical ploy in political battles. John McCain challenging Bush on some of GWB's policies were considered to have extra credibility because McCain was a Republican. When the NY Times publishes an editorial criticism some position endorsed by the left, the GOP quotes them endlessly because the NYT is considered to be a mouthpiece for the left, "and even the NYT thinks it's a dumb idea."

I know very little of Virginia Foxx, so I cannot comment on her stands on race and tolerance. However, despite your very accurate assessment that some on the right are disgusting, unabashed racists, we cannot conclude that's the case for Foxx simply because she quoted Sowell and pointed out his race.
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:36 AM
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9. I always forget to fill this Subject Box...
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 09:52 AM by GirlAfire
You are absolutely right, Buzz.

Like you, I also don't know much about Foxx, so I wouldn't dare try to attribute to her a view she may or may hold. However, Foxx's assumption that Sowell's race was noteworthy/special enough to warrant mention is a bit disturbing. It injected race into an issue that should have been race-neutral (criticism of reform plans), and that was my problem with it. When I wrote the blog, Foxx's statement was what I'd ran into at the time, and it prompted me to think of the more ... manifest ... displays of racism.

Like I said, you're totally right. But I'm not concluding anything about Foxx - just noting her assumptions and how certain acts, such as mentioning Sowell's race where it had absolutely no place, introduces race into arguments that, they claim, have nothing to do with race.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:29 AM
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8. Isn't that second picture
a photoshop the Bush's science adviser?
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