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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:11 AM
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Unwanted remembrances of things past.

I am nearly 60, and often, especially when I'm trying to get to sleep at night, I have recurrent, intrusive memories from my past.

Most of the time, they aren't traumatic. Most of the time, however, they're mundane (the least objectionable kind), unpleasant, or lonely.

I try to deal with it by telling myself, Back to the present!

Anybody else have this problem? If so, how did you deal with it?







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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:15 AM
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1. yes -- seems to go with sleeping less. nt
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:19 AM
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2. I haven't noticed a correlation, but will pay attention to that.

I know last night it was happening, and I hadn't gotten much sleep the night before.




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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:28 AM
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3. the older i get -- my sleeping is very different from
what i've been used to my whole life.

it seems far less rhythmic -- at bed at this hour and up at that hour.

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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:39 AM
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4.  Have you tried yoga?
Yoga has helped me learn to quiet the mind and let my body relax. I might not be asleep but at least the chipmunks in my brain are quiet. Check into it
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 09:44 AM
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5. Nope, but that's an idea. nt
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 06:53 PM
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6. Raccoon, I read your post this morning, thought about it all day.
Odd that you should post this now. I too (just turned 71) have been plagued with middle-of-the-night sleep-depriving thoughts for several years. Figured maybe it was partly genetic--my dad had serious insomnia, as now do I and at least one family member--but it has been troubling and disheartening, especially the negative thoughts. For quite awhile, my mantra has been "My life is a shambles." This after the recurrent, intrusive memories of the past, as you describe them.

But a couple of days ago, something occurred to me. What I did was imagine a conversation between myself and a person with whom I had a relationship that ended badly, and which I did not handle well at all, to the point of still feeling incredible shame for my actions. But in my imaginary conversation, I found myself expressing my regret to this person, and then saying (not sure where this came from), perhaps it was the best thing for me to do at the time. Bad as it was, it was my way of dealing with the situation then, and perhaps it was best in the long run for both of us.

For some reason this framed the circumstance in an entirely new way for me. Not saying I was able to put it away and forgive myself, but it's almost like that's no longer necessary. And in the imaginary head-to-head, I wasn't apologizing, merely stating regret at my actions, but giving myself the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't the awful person I'd thought myself to be all these years, but rather a human being who had a human reaction which, good or bad, was less than appropriate to the circumstance when it happened.

I probably have a lot more mid-night torments ahead in which the "my life is a shambles" mantra will still buffet my psyche, but I am determined not to allow them to plague and undermine me and rob me of whatever good and right things I have on my record. Time will tell, but meantime, I hope I have not bored you with recounting, and that something I've said might resonate with you. I'll share one more thing--at a conference I attended awhile back, the workshop leader asked participants to write on this very subject, sleep-robbing negative thoughts. What I wrote was--"I lie awake at night, tormenting myself with regrets, failures, and feelings of worthlessness. Then I glance up at the ceiling and see a tiny light, shimmering like a distant star. At once I realize it's the smoke alarm, and I take comfort in the fact that at least the house is not on fire!"

Blessings!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:27 AM
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7. That's incredible what you said about the relationship, because I have

similar thoughts about a relationship from my past. I feel exactly the same way about it.

I happen to know this person went on to marry someone else, and I hope he lives happily ever after.

I do think it's for the best that we didn't marry each other.

" What I did was imagine a conversation between myself and a person with whom I had a relationship that ended badly, and which I did not handle well at all, to the point of still feeling incredible shame for my actions."

I'm going to PM you.


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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:46 PM
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8. I created an earworm to deal with
Edited on Sun Aug-30-09 10:48 PM by pscot
the monkey-brain. I recently memorized Schillers Ode to Joy, in German. It's only 8 lines long. When consciousness starts swinging from branch to branch, I run the mental tape. I'm generally asleep before the 4th repetition. It's a very powerful mantra.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:45 PM
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9. I do the mental tape thing too.
I'm learning Irish Gaelic and have just memorized the lyrics to the Irish song "Eamonn an Chnoic." I play the mental tape of the lyrics in my head to help me fall asleep. It works.

I am probably older than most of you. I'll be 66 in December. I have the privilege of having been born on the same day and year as John Kerry. :-)
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