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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:47 PM
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Ottawa boy's invisible invention warns birds about deadly windows


Last Updated: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 | 5:24 PM ET Comments58Recommend217
CBC News

Eighth grader Charlie Sobcov wants to stop birds from dying in collisions with windows, but he doesn't want to ruin anybody's view.

For his latest school science fair project he has invented painted, plastic decals that can be placed — discreetly — right in the middle of a window pane.

"This paint is a colour that birds can see but humans can't," he said Wednesday on CBC Radio's All in a Day. "It's like putting a big stop sign in the middle of the window."

The colour is ultraviolet, beyond the range of colours visible to humans. That means the "stop sign" lets birds know the window is solid, but is nearly invisible to humans.

Similar flying falcon-shaped decals already exist on the windows of some buildings, but unlike Sobcov's, they are black and can obstruct part of the window.

Sobcov, who studies at the Turnbull School, a private school in Ottawa, said he first fell in love with birds while on a trip with his parents to Costa Rica four years ago. He learned that bird populations were decreasing around the world, and that many scientists were blaming global warming.

He later read that about 500 million birds a year in Mexico, the U.S. and Canada were dying as a result of crashing into windows. Many deadly bird collision are with the windows of skyscrapers along their migratory paths.

Sobcov resolved to help save the lives of some of those birds.

more:
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/01/21/ot-090121-bird-decals.html
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:49 PM
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1. Best story of the day
I saw this earlier and meant to find a better article to post. I think it is fantastic that a kid figured this out.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:51 PM
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2. This is great. I wonder if this idea would work with windmill farms?
If so, that would remove the only environmental objection to their increased use.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:31 AM
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14. Oh, that would be great!
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applejuice Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:41 PM
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29. Maybe they could use paint in that ultraviolet color he used
so that the windmills would be super visible to the birds?
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 10:09 AM
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42. unlikely. As far as I know...
The issue with windmills isn't the birds being unable to see the blades, but rather not being used to things moving that fast/in that way in nature. Similar to animals that run out in front of a car even though they can see the car.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 07:56 PM
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3. recommend
:applause:
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:04 PM
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4. The kid's already
smarter than I am. But who's he gonna brag to about that? :)
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 08:15 PM
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5. Passion, Youthful Energy, Creativity - Works Every Time
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 09:47 PM
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6. Smart boy. Happy birds. K/R
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:00 PM
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7. Nice idea.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 10:12 PM
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8. Fantastic idea
I didn't know birds could see into the UV range.

I'd definitely buy some for our windows. We're always hearing the smack of birds against the glass.

Especially the hummingbirds, who seem to get very excited during territorial fights.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:44 PM
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9. Hmm
Good idea.

Maybe he can take it a step further. Instead of decals, why not mix some of the compound into glass as its made, making the whole window visible to the birdies
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-09 11:48 PM
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10. Excellent!
I've got visible decals on my windows for that very reason, and I like them as part of my decor - but these ultraviolet versions are great for people who don't want visible shapes on their windows. Anything that encourages people to use it is great. Good for this kid!
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johan helge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 06:35 AM
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11. Impressive! (nt)
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:43 AM
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12. Nice. K&R
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 09:33 AM
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13. Brilliant
An excellent solution.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:49 AM
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15. This is fantastic!
Kudos to this talented, compassionate
young man.

:yourock: :applause:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 11:51 AM
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16. Cool invention. Wonder if he can make one for a jet engine?
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 02:40 AM
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41. Jet engines aren'e exactly transparent.
They even have their own form of visual warning. In the center of the inlet, on the cone covering the gearbox, is a spiral pattern that, when spinning, is supposed to scare birds.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:02 PM
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17. What a bright kid.
Bravo!
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:17 PM
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18. Future D.o.Int. Director of U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service!
Outstanding!
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mt13 Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:20 PM
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19. what a great kid!
i would use these on my windows, especially the french doors to my patio. having a bird feeder in the back of the house, every now and then, a bird crashes into those doors. luckily, albeit sadly, i have only had 1 casualty.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:20 PM
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20. Ihave the translucent bird decals on my windows...but this is great if someone does not want to see
the decal from the inside..
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:23 PM
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28. This kids parents/lawyers need to go for the big bucks for this kid
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 04:25 PM by jhrobbins
and approach green window making organizations and have them on the windows before they go out the factory door.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:51 PM
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30. Quick, before some bastard rips him off. nt
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:28 PM
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21. Next up
an invention to keep deer from jumping through patio door windows.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:31 PM
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22. That story absolutely warms my heart.
What a fantastic kid!!!

K&R
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 12:34 PM
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23. cool. cool kid etc. but not new
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 12:35 PM by Locrian
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 01:48 PM
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24. I've had something like this for a couple of years
Can't recall where I bought them. My house has killed several birds too...
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:15 PM
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25. Had to deal with a waxwing last year
Two of them. They seem to love eating berries then they get drunk and bang into the window. 2 were stunned and one of those was hurt. We left him overnight, but eventually took him somewhere to get healed. Always hear birds banging into the windows somewhere. Heck our windows are dirty and still bang.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 02:31 PM
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26. And a child shall lead us
What's next?
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:07 PM
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27. What a marvel!
We feed LOTS of wild birds and have always enjoyed our big windows thru which to watch them. But there's lots of bird collisions as a result. I'd be first in line to buy some of these!!!
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 04:56 PM
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31. man! that is too cool!!!!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:05 PM
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32. hey hey hey . . . three cheers for Charlie! . . . way to go, kid!!! . . . n/t
.
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earthlite Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:33 PM
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33. Not to take away credit from the kid's idea but....
There is already a well known product like this on the market. It works very well.
http://windowalert.com/
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:42 PM
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34. THAT IS NOT NEW. We have some that we bought two years ago.
And he did not invent them.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:58 PM
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36. You're right, but his heart is in the right place.....
http://www.fatfinch.com/pages/mfg01.html

Unfortunately, he may not become a millionaire :(
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 01:16 AM
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40. He can get sued.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 11:34 PM
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44. It certainly won't help his case if he uses the exact same wording as the product's description..
"This paint is a colour that birds can see but humans can't," he said Wednesday on CBC Radio's All in a Day. "It's like putting a big stop sign in the middle of the window."

WindowAlert product:

"The decal contains a component which brilliantly reflects ultraviolet sunlight. This ultraviolet light is invisible to humans, but glows like a stoplight for birds."
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 07:51 PM
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37. Whoops.
Edited on Fri Jan-23-09 07:52 PM by AtheistCrusader
redacted, replied to the wrong message.

New message:

You have a product from two years ago that is mostly invisible to the human eye, but warns birds?

(Sorry for the edit, I accidentally replied to the wrong message)
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 08:42 PM
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38. I've owned several of the devices at http://windowalert.com/
for 2 years or so.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 01:16 AM
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39. Yes. Window Alert. That is what we have also. Works great.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-09 10:12 AM
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43. Good point but...
he could have invented the same thing. Not new but he could still have come up with the idea. Who knows.

Bit of an overblown story though.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-09 05:50 PM
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35. awesome
:)
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