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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:52 AM
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LHC results put supersymmetry theory 'on the spot'
Results from the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) have all but killed the simplest version of an enticing theory of sub-atomic physics.

Researchers failed to find evidence of so-called "supersymmetric" particles, which many physicists had hoped would plug holes in the current theory.

Theorists working in the field have told BBC News that they may have to come up with a completely new idea.

Data were presented at the Lepton Photon science meeting in Mumbai.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14680570
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 08:14 AM
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1. Damn, I was so hoping they would have it all figured out by Xmas. Best part imho...
Edited on Sat Aug-27-11 08:36 AM by HysteryDiagnosis
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14680570
"It's a beautiful idea. It explains dark matter, it explains the Higgs boson, it explains some aspects of cosmology; but that doesn't mean it's right.

"It could be that this whole framework has some fundamental flaws and we have to start over again and figure out a new direction," he said.


Then there's this:

http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=gzhqr188&keywords=lhc#dest
This explanation for the phenomenon of mass should have been stillborn if common sense was used. To begin, the annihilation and creation of matter is forbidden by a principle of physics. It is tantamount to magic. Second, field theory is a purely imaginary construct, which may or may not have physical significance. And third, it is not explained how the Higgs particle can have intrinsic mass but no charge and yet interact with normal matter, which has charge but is said to have no intrinsic mass. Rather than explain the phenomenon of mass, the theory serves to complicate and confuse the issue. The most amazing feature of this $6 billion experiment is the confused and illogical thinking behind it.

At the heart of the thinking behind the Higgs boson is quantum mechanics, which has a fundamental flaw — it allows effects without a cause. For example, radioactive decay is unpredictable. We do not know what causes an atom to ‘spontaneously’ decay. Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman wrote, “...I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.” Quantum mechanics is not physics, whose aim is understanding.

Particle physicists would be well advised to study chemistry and the ‘London force’ between electrically neutral systems of atoms. It is a weak force, sufficient to form solids and liquids, and is always attractive. In other words, it is like gravity. The extreme feebleness of gravity can be understood as the result of tiny distortions of orbiting systems of charge within the proton, neutron, electron and neutrino.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-11 09:39 AM
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2. The results dashed the simplest form of supersymmetry, I say "Good"
Who wants a simple universe?

I prefer an 11 dimensional universe, which is consistent with supersymmetry and several other theories. We fail to see certain effects or causes because we cannot think in 11 dimensions. Hopefully the new batch of scientists will figure it out.
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