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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:07 PM
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Good question ripe for stupid answers in General Discussion
Tsunami Question.... is prevention possible???
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4180965&mesg_id=4180965

Help! Someone already mentioned "Bermuda Triangle!"
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:12 PM
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1. Done. Thanks.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:35 PM
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3. Oh, you're good...
Preventable? Yes.
Add a couple trillion pounds of "Jello" to each ocean, instead of a giant wave, the whole thing will just "Jiggle".


:rofl:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:34 PM
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2. Unobtainium ?
:spray:
:rofl:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:53 PM
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4. You've never heard of Unobtainium before?
First I heard of it was when my auto mechanic charged me $600 for two pounds of the stuff.

I'm kidding.

I don't remember where I first heard of it.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:58 PM
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5. Never did hear of it before.
But I used my psychic powers to read your mind and knew immediately what it was.
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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:04 PM
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6. Unobtanium - A quick history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtanium

Unobtainium is a term frequently used to describe any material with properties that are unlikely or impossible for any real material to possess and is hence unobtainable. Such materials often arise in the context of science fiction. For example scrith, the fictional material forming the foundation of the Ringworld in Larry Niven's novel of the same name, requires a tensile strength on the order of the forces binding an atomic nucleus together. Since no such material is thought to be possible, a ring world is therefore said to be built out of unobtainium. Unobtainium can be used in a disparaging context (e.g., "that idea is silly; you'd need unobtainium wires to hold the planet up!") or a hypothetical one ("If one were to build an unobtainium shell around a black hole's event horizon, what would happen to the material piling up on it?") The term "Handwavium" is also sometimes used for this material.

The word "unobtainium" is an informal one, apparently developed within science fiction fandom, and probably in ironic reaction to invented element names in, for example, Star Trek (see Treknobabble). It may also be a reference to the naming system for the heaviest actual chemical elements. In this system the letters "Un" represent the digit 1 in the atomic number; for example, element number 111 was called unununium until roentgenium became the official name. In the movie The Core, one of the characters invented a material to build the hull of the craft that dug to the Earth's core - he explicitly dubbed this material unobtainium. Unobtainium also is mentioned as being used in a probability-field weapon in the Uplift Saga by David Brin. See also the list of unreasonably strong materials for more examples.

An earlier source for "unobtainium" exists within the aerospace industry, which has frequently encountered design problems beyond the capabilities of the commonly available materials. Engineers working for Lockheed Corporation at the Skunk works refer to the SR-71 Blackbird as being made of "unobtainium"; not because of the radical decision to use an untried new material, titanium, but because at the time the Soviets were cornering the market in this material and weren't about to let the American military get hold of it. Titanium was required because of the high temperatures that the SR-71 airframe reached. Although titanium alloys have a strength/weight ratio which is much the same as aluminum alloys at room temperature, titanium maintains much of its strength at 600°C whereas aluminum weakens dramatically at this temperature. In spite of efforts by the Soviet Union a large quantity of titanium somehow found its way to the USA after an apparently innocent European company bought a considerable quantity. The company was in fact a front set up for this very purpose.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:14 PM
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7. Damn.
I gotta get out more...
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:37 AM
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9. Is it like John Barnes' "Balonium"?
All FTL ships are powered by Balonium. For a rare substance, it's manufactured in emormous quantities.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:50 PM
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8. That was a good read, thanks.
Can always count on you guys...

Arwalden:

"UFO Anti Audio Vibratory Physio-Molecular Wave Smashing "Laser" Beams
... the extraterrestrial technology that the gubment is hiding from us in Area-51 it's the ONLY thing that can save humanity!"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:55 AM
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10. Tsunami prevention
Prevention may not be possible. After all, as the tectonic plates shift,
all that energy they're storing has to be released somewhere sometime.

On the other hand, if our technology ever got far-enough advanced, you
might be able to pre-empt individual huge tsunamis into a series of
smaller, scheduled events. Imagine: You know that the strain on an
area of the crust has reached 7.6 gigaTsus (a made-up unit!). After
careful consideration, nuclear explosives are used to "trigger" an
earthquake that discharges the strain. The event is well-planned for,
appropriate evacuations are carried out and verified ahead of time,
and the total height of the resuling tsunami is much less than it
would be if the strain were alowed to build up to the point where the
faults ruptured naturally. Naturally, this "discharge" of the fault's
stored energy must be repeated from time to time to continue to head
off "the big one".

There is evidence that we could trigger such events if we wanted to
(and I'm not referring to "Operation Mainstrike" from "A View to a
Kill", although the principles are similar).

Tesha
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