Do you feel that threads like this insult average women?

[Nikia]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=3152502&mesg_id=3152502
Isn't that why so many women have body image issues? We think that celebrities, who have lots of help from stylists, make up artists, editors, and other professionals to make them look beautiful, are average. Many of us without that type of help don't look as attractive. If they are average, we must be unattractive.

[readmylips]

1. We Naturales are the Real Thing....

Those made up celebrities are fake, but we love fake. They are the rich beatiful people and we are the poor naturales.

[fighttotheend]

2. I think the comment was of her not average woman, beauty is in the eye

of the beholder, I think she's pretty and I am a girl and Sandra Bullock is pretty where my boyfriend likes Angelina Jolie, we all know they are fake and mag. are airbrushed, some guys think they are like that for real but those are jerks anyway and you dont want them, Self esteem is the key, when you think you hot you are

Those are just words, and I think more or less it was a comment aimed at her ego, cuz she does think she's queen bee.

Now the exploration of women should is different we as ladies should not bend to accommodate them (men)
When we realize that we'll be unstoppable

It goes all the way back to when we were in High school---Maybe he'll like me if I sleep w/him---We all found out NOT!
As long as you take care of yourself, be strong, take care of the environment and care for animals you'll be alright and no man can take that away, AND THAT is what MAKES US BEAUTIFUL

[silverlib]

3. and this thread won't have near the

response that the referenced thread gets. Nothing wrong with fun and I wouldn't bash the responders, but it reminds me of why the media hypes on non-issues, (which drives me bonders) when we do the same thing in our personal lives. (now, this thread may surpass the number of responses to the referenced one and I'll tuck my tail between my legs - let's hope)

[RPM]

4. they insult everyone...

conversations like those are an insult to the general intelligence of all participants.

[Warpy]

5. Thanks for reminding my why I have lounge threads blocked.

People under 30 are all focused on body image, even though they may have other interests.

Those of us over 50 generally don't give a rip.

[Igel]

6. Eh. It's evolution. Hard to be offended at the way

we're hardwired.

Certain hip/waist ratios and facial configurations are preferred. As long as the "ideal" or "perfect" isn't required of everybody, no problem.

(Imagine the same discussion with a group of aspiring undergrad physicists and Hawking or Einstein: if all the professors and TAs assumed if you're not a Hawking, you're a loser, the field would die quickly. Even if some professors have that attitude, it's not a reason to decry holding up others as better. The analogy doesn't go much further, but it doesn't need to.)

[Hello_Kitty]

9. I think the evolution /"hard wired" thing is a lot of b.s.

And please don't cite a bunch of books and studies from "world renowned" biologists to me. It's patriarchal malarkey disguised as science. And I don't know what planet you've been living on but from where I sit we ARE getting the implicit message that "ideal" and "perfect" is required. A multi gazillion dollar beauty/diet/surgery industry attests to that.

[SarahB]

7. There's many instances...

of both genders wanting to pigeonhole people based on entirely shallow reasons around here. A person's exterior and the perception other people have of a person based upon exterior stuff is entirely overly focused upon. It goes in many directions too. The real fact is that most of the celebrity women the men (mainly men, but not entirely) on this site critique wouldn't give most of them the time of day, much less a second look.

[bloom]

8. Is it possible to be sexist, shallow

...and progressive at the same time?

I would say "no".

[FizzFuzz]

10. heheh!

good point. A famous thinker (I forget who but it may have been Susan Faludi) said that some of the biggest (male) fighters for civil rights, and other progressive issues of human dignity will turn around and spew the worst sexual trivializations of women. And then stomp any women who dare to speak up. I've seen that exact thing here from time to time. ( I think some people refuse to even speak to me because I have spoken up pretty forcefully a time or two.) ;)