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kalibex Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:44 AM
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Yeah, right we're not still a culture with DEEP pockets of misogeny...
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-preg19.html">' Pregnant grad told to skip ceremony takes the stage'

:mad:

-B
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:48 AM
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1. Link appears to be broken- but I am curious.. (fix please?)
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:07 AM
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2. Try this
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:09 AM
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3. The most salient point of the article?
This line:

"The father of Cosby's child, also a senior at the school, was allowed to participate in graduation."

Oh yeah, but everything's equal in America. :eyes:
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:17 AM
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4. One wonders if/how many young women who had terminated
their pregnancies got to walk across the stage. The young lady has decided to stick it out- there's just no pleasing some folks.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:39 AM
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5. I'm waiting to hear someone say this is okay because it's
Edited on Thu May-19-05 09:40 AM by beam me up scottie
a catholic school.
If so, why did the father get to walk down the aisle?
They tried to shame this girl and she stood up to them.
If I had any money, I'd send her flowers.

***snip
A pregnant student who was banned from graduation at her Roman Catholic high school announced her own name and walked across the stage anyway at the close of the program.

Alysha Cosby's decision prompted cheers and applause Tuesday from many of her fellow seniors at St. Jude Educational Institute.

But her mother and aunt were escorted out of the church by police after Cosby headed back to her seat.
***snip

this is the excuse they used to cover their asses:

"Cosby was told in March that she could no longer attend school because of safety concerns, and her name was not listed in the graduation program."


This is what you get if you "choose life"?
Nice.


http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-preg19.html
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oddmanout Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:14 AM
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6. Hypocrisy Rules!!!
Just goes to show you that all of this pro-life v pro-choice debate is really an exercise in power and control over women.

These self righteous pricks cloak their hypocrisy in the mock "caring about her safety" bullshit which is in itself demeaning. As if a pregnant women is a fragile thing needing protection.....


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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:02 AM
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7. Well said!
And I loved the part where they called the cops on her mom, just in case anybody else decided to get uppity in the future.
How could anyone send their kids to a school like this?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 12:20 PM
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8. Holy bat squeeze!
This is misogeny in the extreme! Not only are we a "culture with DEEP pockets of misogeny," but it is wide spread! Good thing I wasn't there...:grr:
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 01:36 PM
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9. Wow, I think I'm having a flashback to 1978...
when I got pregnant my junior year of high school. As soon as I started to 'show', I was expelled from school and sent to an unwed mother's home by my parents. Of course, some of my friends knew (because I told them before I was locked up), and my parents soon found out the whole damned school knew anyway. So much for keeping it a secret and 'saving my and my sisters' reputations'. My son's father, of course, suffered no consequences, immediately started dating another girl, and was valedictorian of his class.

I cannot believe 27 years later this shit still goes on. Wait a minute... I can believe it. This is the US fundy-christian-talibornagain south. My incident happened in Texas, in an upper-middle class suburb of Houston.

My story is here:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2991/marybb.html


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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 03:38 PM
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10. what a double standard!!!
well, that goes with the territory - hypocrisy, abuse, right wing... (lol - at first i typed 'right wang'!!! maybe that's closer to the truth!)

good for this girl and her family! i am proud of her for asserting herself for her rights.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 04:10 PM
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11. Noticed how the abstinence advocates
Focus their rhetoric and efforts mostly on the girls? Yep, it's the old "He's the gas pedal and you're the brakes" b.s. (I actually heard that when I was a teenager.) Which, as we all know, is SO effective at curtailing teen sexual activity and pregnancy :eyes:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:04 PM
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13. what they need to do is acknowledge that people have SEX as teens
they deny deny deny, preach abstinence, and hope for the best.

i am very fortunate. i live in a very progressive, alternative town. most of us had our consciousness raised long ago. granted, there is a fair amount of ignorance here...

but both my girls are very aware of what goes on. my 15 year old is a 'peer educator,' teaching 6th graders how to cope with peer pressure. they are very open about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, so to speak.

my 11 year old is in a very small school, where we are going to start a girls' circle this week that will continue into next year. one of the moms is going to lead it, and let the middle school girls talk about whatever they want.

we don't say DO NOT HAVE SEX! we say, HAVE SEX, BUT BE CAREFUL AND SMART! well, we don't tell them to have sex, but we don't deny that that's what they want to do and will do it!

i really feel blessed to have this for my kids, instead of this crap this poor girl went through.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:44 PM
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14. Your approach sounds very reasonable
Which is, of course, why the wingnuts will never adopt it.
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chicaloca Donating Member (704 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:00 PM
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12. Argh...
This reminds me of an argument I had with a friend a while back. She claimed that because women have more to lose from an unwanted pregnancy, they have more of a responsibility to not get pregnant than men do to not impregnate women. :argh: I then asked if people should then be held responsible if they get mugged, murdered, etc., because obviously, a person who gets murdered has lost a lot more than the murderer will (assuming he/she doesn't get the death penalty). My friend got pretty quiet after that....
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 07:42 AM
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15. There is the stigma
and parental notification still penalizes pregnant girls.
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