Look at this, a stalker's dream come true

[Warpy]

Ever worry about your wife cheating?

Want to know where your daughter is late at night?

Need to know when your girlfriend's temperature is rising?


This amazing device will answer all of your questions! These panties can give you her location, and even her temperature and heart rate, and she will never even know it's there! Unlike the cumbersome and uncomfortable chastity belts of the past, these panties are 100% cotton, and use cutting-edge technology to help you protect what matters most.

http://forgetmenotpanties.contagiousmedia.org/index.html

I wonder how many women will get killed because of these things before somebody decides maybe they weren't such a good idea, after all.

Note that there is no equivalent for men.

[Gelliebeans]

1. omg I thought this was a joke

if it seems to be real, this is absolute bullshit

[redqueen]

2. Nope... men are expected to cheat.

It's only bad when women do it.

:sarcasm:

[DIKB]

8. I disagree.

I though a male, have NEVER cheated on any significant other. I even being in love with someone, refused to sleep with anyone till my feelings had faded (over 2 years). I have however been cheated on. I disapprove of men who do so, and have chastised my brother for being the sleazeball that he is.

Fidelity and monogamy are not outrageous concepts, nor are they solely related to gender. I am single, straight, and do hope for a healthy monogamous relationship. I am however hesitant to make myself vulnerable after having caught my S.O. w/ another man. It's been a year and 2 months, and I still feel safest alone.

[tenshi816]

26. My ex-husband used to say that.

Even after he gave me an STD. He said it was in a man's nature to cheat, but any woman who did it deserved whatever happened to her.

Note I said he is my ex-husband.

[beam me up scottie]

33. I would be saying my "late" ex-husband!!!

But you are probably a better person than I am!
:evilgrin:

[tenshi816]

35. Heh - I left him, and life has been sweet ever since

[LiberalVoice]

3. "Due to overwhelming demand, the panties have SOLD OUT."

Oh jesus christ....$1190 for 7 pairs of "advanced" panties.

[Gelliebeans]

4. This seems to be a sham

here is a link I found http://www.gearlive.com/index.php/news/article/forget_me_not_panties_05260101/

http://showdown.contagiousmedia.org/

part of the showdown at contagiousmedia ????????

[Warpy]

6. I was skeptical about the vital sign measurement

that's obviously fake, but using RFID technology to locate someone on a pretty constant basis is doable.

Once again, it's a stalker's dream.

[Gelliebeans]

7. I know Warpy

there was something in the paper recently about a device that can track your spouse's car with GPS (it adheres to the muffler), so something like this is not far off.

sends shivers down my spine

[ktowntennesseedem]

5. I especially enjoyed the testimonials!

I'm sure they'll soon be a featured sponsor for James Dobson's Focus on the Family. Right up their puritanical alley!

[mongo]

9. Here's a similar product - marketed to women

and a real product - not a hoax


New semen tracer stains
more than reputations

By Mark Schreiber
Contributing Writer

May 4, 2002

During the Middle Ages, legend has it that when dashing knights rode off to war, they left their wives strapped into beltlike devices that made any straying from their marital vows exceedingly uncomfortable, if not downright impossible. But with a little help from chemistry -- and a new product named "S-Check" -- today's women may be gaining the upper hand.

This latest weapon in the war between the sexes was developed by Safety Tantei-sha, an Osaka investigation agency. It consists of two aerosol containers which, when sprayed onto a man's undershorts, will reveal any telltale traces of semen from a recent episode of intercourse.

"First you spray the contents from 'A' on his undershorts," explains Takeshi Makino, president of Safety Tanteisha. "Then after two or three minutes, you spray 'B.' Any secretions of semen on the shorts will glow green.

<snip>

At 35,000 yen a set, S-Check does not come cheap; but it's still far more economical than paying an agency to tail a suspect for one full week, charges for which run about 500,000 yen. Makino says his company sells 200 sets a month, to clientele he says are "99 percent" female.


more - http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0205/020504stains.html

[beam me up scottie]

10. OH MY GAWD!

That's horrible!

I'm sure there will be thousands of men murdered by their female partners now that they will have the evidence of infidelity they require to justify their violent and obsessive jealous rage.:sarcasm:


You have a problem recognizing the very real problems that affect only women, don't you?

You are either unable or unwilling to acknowledge these issues so instead you post what you obviously consider to be equitable treatment of men by women.

If I didn't think my post would get deleted, I'd tell you to get over it.

[IrishDemocrat]

11. Gotta sympathize here

This is outright gross and should be illegal. As cruel as women have been to me with dating and whatnot, there is no way anyone in their right minds can support this. Funny this device was featured in Catholic Parent magazine. As far as I'm concerned for the Church I was born and raised- Keep this nonsense up. You wanna associate with these right wing groups, you will lose members!

[beam me up scottie]

12. Who supports anything?

I don't understand your post, did you miss my point?

[IrishDemocrat]

13. I was referring to...

the topic, not your reply. Must have clicked the wrong button

[beam me up scottie]

14. Oops, sorry.

I get a little trigger happy sometimes.
Forgive me.
Peace.
:hi:

[mongo]

15. I was simply responding to the OP comment

Note that there is no equivalent for men.

When there is - and a real product to boot - not a hoax like these panties are.

You have a problem recognizing the very real problems that affect only women, don't you?

Actually no, especially with the current admin. and the unknown future of the Supreme Court. REAL issues, such as the right to chose are in great danger. We really only have differ on a few subjects. But the fact is this product is a HOAX, which doesn't make it a real hot button issue. Besides, if these were real, do you think a couple gets up in the morning and the man tells the lady "gee honey, why don't you wear those new undies I got for you today - don't worry about the beeping..."

I'm sure there will be thousands of men murdered by their female partners now that they will have the evidence of infidelity they require to justify their violent and obsessive jealous rage.:sarcasm:

OK. Assuming this was a real product, any woman whose man requested she wear these should run as fast she can from the guy.

You are either unable or unwilling to acknowledge these issues so instead you post what you obviously consider to be equitable treatment of men by women.

You know, the only issue that this post brings up that I don't understand is why any woman who is being abused would stick around. Economic issues aside, even in the small city I am in there is a battered women's shelter. Anyone in an abusive relationship should get out. It's the only option. I'm trying to be honest here, try not to flame me too much

If I didn't think my post would get deleted, I'd tell you to get over it.

The next time you see a post from me, try not to read too much into it. You obviously have some problems with me, and some preconceived notions about who I am, so pretend it is from someone else and see if you take it a little differently.

[Ripley]

16. Are you on a Mission?

I mean really, so what if the OP story is a hoax? There is a real difference in how women respond to spouse adultery and the way men respond to spouse adultery, statistically speaking.

Are you denying that?

[mongo]

21. not denying that at all.

There is a real difference in how women respond to spouse adultery and the way men respond to spouse adultery, statistically speaking.

Are you denying that?

I never even came close to denying that - not really sure where you even got the idea.

My original post was was really just light hearted - I posted by someone OTHER THAN ME - it wouldn't have been jumped on so hard. But I guess everyone needs someone to hate - knock yourselves out.

[beam me up scottie]

18. Right.

You care so deeply about women's issues and you prove it how?

By using this forum as a place to proselytize porn?

Give me a break.

And don't flatter yourself about your reputation, I only know what I see in this forum and what I see is you using us as a captive audience for your sales pitch.

You use every opportunity to advocate, defend and sell the porn industry, which would be fine if you were pitching to prospective customers.

But in case you hadn't noticed, we're not buying.

[mongo]

22. Yep, and I defend porn in the other forums too

against untrue and unfair characterizations.

But in case you hadn't noticed, we're not buying.

Ya, know I don't post here so much as to try to change any of the "hate mongo fan club (TM)" - but for the benefit of the other people who read but do not post.

[beam me up scottie]

24. Yeah, I'm one of those

who read but did not post.
Until one day I got angry enough at how my sisters were being treated in this forum that I couldn't let it go anymore.

I don't care if you feel the need to defend porn anywhere else.
I do care that you proselytize it in the women's forums.

Feel free to continue, I can't stop you and the rules say you can, just don't expect me to shut up about it.

[Hello_Kitty]

38. And you know we're going to be deleted and he won't

See how carefully inoffensive he's being, while continuing to post? It'll go on until he cries victimhood and someone alerts the mods.

Fuck!

I'm tempted to delete my post to him but I mean every word of it.

Damn!

[beam me up scottie]

40. The trolls who were recently

ts'd in this forum feigned offense.
The gall, the unmitigated nerve it takes to disrupt and then pretend that we treated them unjustly...there are no words.

[chicaloca]

27. yeah, and never mind the fact that....

the president of the company that makes this semen-detector thing is a man, and I'm willing to bet most of the scientists who developed it are men. So much for women oppressing men. :eyes: Plus, the article points out that this thing can also be used on women (hmmm, wonder why they didn't make more of THAT?!?) and I'd imagine it's much more reliable that way, because a guy could get semen on his underwear from masturbating. So this device really has a disparate impact on women when you think about the fact that it's more credible when used on them and they're more likely to get beaten for adultery.

It's also interesting to note that if you do a Google search, you get hardly any hits for this thing. A Lexis-Nexis newspaper search turns up nothing at all. So despite the PR-ish article here, is it really all that popular?

[mongo]

29. I never said this was some kind of example of women oppressing

men. I was simply pointing out that it existed.

Geesh....

It's also interesting to note that if you do a Google search, you get hardly any hits for this thing. A Lexis-Nexis newspaper search turns up nothing at all. So despite the PR-ish article here, is it really all that popular?

Google results for "semen detector" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=semen+detector&btnG=Google+Search

I knew the article I had read was on a Japanese product, so that is what I hard originally searched on.

[chicaloca]

36. Why do you assume we're all stupid here?

The page you linked to contains a search for any page with the words "semen" and "detector," NOT for the phrase "semen detector". If you search for the actual phrase, the number of hits goes down from over 60,000 to 178. For the love of whatever pornographic deity you worship, STOP FUCKING LYING TO EVERYBODY HERE.

Furthermore, you say you didn't post the semen detector story as an attempt to show that women oppress men. In other words, what you posted has NOTHING to do with women's rights or issues. It's about men's rights as usual with you. However, you're in a women's rights forum. READ the title of this forum before you post and ask yourself, "is this topic relevant to women's rights and issues?" In most cases, your answer should be a resounding "no." If you want to have a discussion about the semen detector, post it in the lounge. There are plenty of places on DU where the type of conversations you want to have are acceptable; why do you continuously come to the one place where it's not acceptable? Or are you so goddamn saturated in privilege that you can't possibly accept that there might be a place where you, even though you're a man, AREN'T welcome? Just think about all the places on DU where women and particularly people who've been victims of sexual violence aren't welcome -- the lounge, GD, even some LBN threads. Why is it so difficult for you to accept that there's one tiny part of the universe where you're not welcome? Are you that fucking arrogant?

No wait, don't answer that. I already know the answer.


On edit: As an example of just how off topic some of the pages turned up in Mongo's search are, check this one out. It's about how to maintain your cow herd's reproductive health. How does that relate to the semen detector again?

http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/dairy/g952.htm

[mongo]

41. BTW

Every mongo on the internet is not me. I pretty much only post on DU and a porn board on occasion.

The original post was just to say that yes, similar products do exist which are marketed to women - which the OP said didn't exist. It was meant in a light hearted vein. So, I maintain that it was on topic.

Or are you so goddamn saturated in privilege that you can't possibly accept that there might be a place where you, even though you're a man, AREN'T welcome?

Gee, and I thought this was a FORUM on a DISCUSSION board. You know, where different viewpoints are DISCUSSED? Hell, in other threads I can't even address real issues affecting women without being personally attacked.

[chicaloca]

47. BTW....

I wasn't the one who said I knew another Mongo. :eyes:

And if you don't like what I said, see cccombs' post below regarding the Terminator. I never told you to go away. I'm just pointing out that you whine about how nobody here likes you, but there are plenty of other places where you would be welcome. It's just stupid to keep coming back to the one place you're not welcome and then whine that nobody likes you. But if you want to, fine. You haven't changed anybody's mind, and unless you learn to argue without being condescending and dishonest, you're not going to.

And I didn't attack anything you said on the second stalker thread. Why are you addressing this to me? Am I suddenly responsible for what every other person on DU writes to you?

Also, I love how you dodged all my major points regarding your dishonesty.

[chicaloca]

48. and....

If you are, indeed, referring to the stalker thread in this comment, which I assume you are:

"Hell, in other threads I can't even address real issues affecting women without being personally attacked." (emphasis mine)

You seem to have admitted here that you know full well that most of the other issues you bring up (other than one comment about need for change in stalking laws) are either irrelevant or offensive to women. So now we know without a doubt that you know perfectly well that you're not concerned with making things better for women.

[beam me up scottie]

34. I will never understand why people

feel the need to minimize the difficulties faced by others.
Maybe it is just about women.

If I were to wander over to the African-American forum and there happened to be a ongoing thread on slavery, would I be likely to see a white person posting about how his ancestors worked for terribly low wages?

[Misunderestimator]

17. Right, a product that indicates semen on underwear would mean NOTHING...

As if that stuff only gets there one way... Not even going to ask what the point of this was.

[Ripley]

19. Someone might have misinterpreted something, true.

As happens a lot in GD. I've seen Onion articles that caused quite the uproar!

But the underlying point I believe is that more men commit adultery than women. So what, right? But the evidence of violence against women who are caught fooling around compared to men fooling around is quite one-sided. And while women might file for divorce, men quite often use their fists.

Yeah, there is that woman who ran over her husband in her Mercedes...

I think this needs another thread, since this situation is not true.

[Misunderestimator]

20. I agree.... a fake story doesn't help make the point.

And it's a very valid one.

[mongo]

23. I don't know - I was watching Berman and Berman a while ago

and Jennifer said something to the effect of "I don't let my husband masturbate".

Bet he hides his porn collection really well.

[Ripley]

25. I have no idea who Berman and Berman are...

But I have never heard a woman say she doesn't let her husband masturbate. Maybe some fundies say that, but you know damn well we ain't fundies here.

As a smut purveyor (your words) you must enjoy the fact that some men "hide" their porn collection. What does that say about honesty and sexuality between men and women? Perhaps you should recognize that often when a man is having a dysfunctional sex life with his female partner, that possibly it could be that HE is doing something wrong. Hmmmm?

Maybe it isn't always the fault of the female that the men need to use and hide their porn, but the fact that the unrealistic situations in most porn make their female partners look incompetent or prudish.

[mongo]

28. Berman & Berman have a very popular show about women and

sexual topics on the Oxygen Network. Jennifer Berman is a gynecologist and her sister Laura is a therapist.

As a smut purveyor (your words) you must enjoy the fact that some men "hide" their porn collection. What does that say about honesty and sexuality between men and women? Perhaps you should recognize that often when a man is having a dysfunctional sex life with his female partner, that possibly it could be that HE is doing something wrong. Hmmmm?

No, I think it's sad mostly. If a couple is having a dysfunctional sex life, it could be either, or more likely, both partners fault. Men don't tend to prefer porn over sex with their life partner unless there are other serious problems in the relationship.

Maybe it isn't always the fault of the female that the men need to use and hide their porn, but the fact that the unrealistic situations in most porn make their female partners look incompetent or prudish.

Porn is FANTASY. Watching The Terminator doesn't make me feel like a wimp. Why should watching porn make women feel incompetent or prudish? Don't even answer that - I wasn't trying to turn this into another thread about porn.

[Ripley]

30. Obviously your goal is to promote your business...

Funny how if you were promoting the Amish Lifestyle, or the Silver Ring lifestyle, etc. you would be deleted. But nope, you are allowed to continually post in threads where women discuss their problems and inasmuch describe the answer as PORNOGRAPHY. If only more women watched other people fuck, their husbands would be good.

That, my friend is misogyny in action.

PS....did you attend Ohio U?

[mongo]

31. I have never described the answer to anyones problems as

PORNOGRAPHY. I only defend it against unfair characterizations. My main point is that porn is simply entertainment. For example, I never mentioned porn in this thread until someone brought it up.

And no, I didn't attend OU. Why do you ask?

[Ripley]

32. Why are so many of your posts here?

And in posts about sexual offenders in other forums? Do you not have a life outside your business? If it's just entertainment, why do you only post in threads about women and sex?

Heard about a guy named Mongo at OU. Thought it might be you.

[Hello_Kitty]

37. "Watching The Terminator doesn't make me feel like a wimp."

Really? Well, I congratulate you on your unshakeable self-confidence. Must be great to be so unaffected by media manipulation and difficult to understand why others allow themselves to be. Why, what weak-willed fools the rest of us are!! I mean, good thing for the marketers that 99.99998% of the population does not possess remarkable fortitude that you and Daisy have (noticed it in her posts too), lest the billions they spend to relentlessly push images designed to make men and women feel physically and sexually inadequate would be for naught. What's your secret?

But, wait...There also seems to be a tiny chink in the mighty armor of self-assurance. Why does it hurt you so that feminists on a Women's Rights and Issues Forum disagree with you? On more than one occasion you have complained of being personally attacked on this forum. Seems awfully sensitive, considering not even the Terminator can make you feel like a wimp. Why do you care what we think? Are we THAT powerful? More powerful than the Terminator? Wow. We're pretty cool...

Oh yeah, you need to defend porn from "unfair characterizations" by feminists on a liberal discussion board because right wing fundies want to throw you in jail. Is it just me, or does that make NO FUCKING SENSE AT ALL? You know what? I think porn sucks and people who use porn are lame. And if that seems judgemental, wah fucking wah, it's an OPINION. As a medium it demeans and objectifies people, and as an industry it pays it workers shit. I also think some of the same things about Wal-Mart. That being said, I'm not trying to put you or the manager of my local Wal-Mart in jail. And neither is anyone else on this forum. Focus on the Family wants to nail your hide, not us and you know it. So what are you really afraid of? That criticism of porn might get through to people and they'll stop buying it?

In a previous post you said that you couldn't understand why a battered wife would stay with an abusive husband. Well, you claim you're being picked on by feminists on a Women's Rights and Issues Forum. And yet you keep coming back. Why is that? Kinda ironic, dontcha think?

Finally, one of the primary characteristics of a bully is lack of empathy. Just sayin'

[beam me up scottie]

39. That's what pissed me off.

I didn't understand why somebody would push porn in a women's forum.
I went to a women's clinic yesterday afternoon.
It was a great place, relaxed, quiet and comfortable.
While I was waiting for my doctor, I browsed through the magazines and books they had on hand.
You know what I didn't see?
Pornography.
Because it would be offensive, inappropriate, insensitive, ignorant and just plain stupid to have it there.
Women go there for all different reasons including abortions, miscarriages, family planning, counseling and prenatal care.
You don't force women to look at skin mags when they go there.
Just like you shouldn't see it in this forum.
It's not about free speech, it's about emotional cruelty.

[mongo]

42. I sit on the bleeding edge of the first amendment

And I risk arrest every fucking day, just so I can sell a lonely man a movie, or a couple a movie to spice things up, or a woman a vibrator, or a couple a toy or lube or whatever.

And I'm hated for it by elements of BOTH the left and right. I am just trying to make my case heard, here on the left. Perhaps you are not trying to throw me in jail like FOTF, CWA, etc., but when it is attacked on a left wing board like DU, you only further their cause.

And I don't know if you've noticed, but outside of this forum, there are many, MANY DU'ers of both genders that enjoy adult entertainment and do not see it as being the cornerstone of some great conspiracy against women.

Remember Anthony Comstock? Our first great censor of the mails and media? He went after Margaret Sanger, condoms distributed in the mail, information about birth control and sexual health, etc. So the fact is that even though you find porn distasteful, you may have a personal stake in the matter.

As far as misconceptions, lookie here's one:
and as an industry it pays it workers shit

Women performers make way more than men in porn, but the performers in general make $300 - $1000 (or more for stars) per day.

Clerks in porn stores generally make considerably more than clerks in other stores. In the old style stores, they have to put up with considerable BS (which I am not BTW), and even in my little two-bit podunk store, my ONE employee is making more an hour than he has ever made in his life, and he is 56 years old.

[Name removed]

43. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mongo]

44. Of course not, the only liberties WORTH defending are the ones

that YOU care about.

[beam me up scottie]

45. Puh-leeeze.

You poor thing, how hard it must be to be so maligned.
Poor poor Mongo, nobody cares that he's risking his life to save porn.
:nopity:
You're protecting your business and your fondness for smut which is hardly the same as fighting for me or my rights.
Thomas Paine you ain't.
Like I said before, I ain't buying it.
And from the looks of this forum, nobody else is either.

[Hello_Kitty]

46. Um, yeah. To ME they are the only ones worth defending.

What's your point there? Why do I HAVE to actively defend all forms of speech because I believe in freedom of speech? What about MY freedom to have an opinion about something? Are you saying I should pretend to think porn is great, because any other position is a direct threat to your civil liberties? Gee, that's not very free is it? Or logical.
And once again, since it's clearly not getting through...

CRITICISM IS NOT CENSORSHIP!!!


Defend your own industry, from those who actually threaten its existence, i.e., fundies. I'm not making any money on it and it's sure as shit not benefitting me in any way. So no, I'm not going to "sit on the bleeding edge of the First Amendment" with you over porn. Sorry, but there are other more pressing civil liberties issues that command my attention like, you know, the Patriot Act. That one could get all of us here at DU thrown in the slammer after the feds seize our Internet activity records and charge us as terrorists because we've dared to insult the Chimperor.

Why don't you get some of those "poor lonely" men who buy porn from you to get out there and protest the forces of censorship with you? Maybe they just need to get out of the house a little....

:shrug:

[Hello_Kitty]

49. HOLY SHIT!!

Jesus H. Christ talk about an overblown sense of self-importance!! I just re-read this post and it's truly amazing.

And I risk arrest every fucking day, just so I can sell a lonely man a movie, or a couple a movie to spice things up, or a woman a vibrator, or a couple a toy or lube or whatever.

Oh please. Why is this our fault? Any business venture involves assuming risk. When you choose to sell porn in Bumfuck, you risk evoking the moral indignation of some of the locals. Either suck it up and deal or pull up stakes and move somewhere more sophisticated. Whining on this discussion board about it will not get you sympathy.

but when it is attacked on a left wing board like DU, you only further their cause.

Really. Pray tell, Mongo, how then shall we speak of your beloved industry on this site, such that we don't risk furthering the wrong cause? Must stay "on message" you know. Maybe you have some good "talking points" for us? I'm not real good at parroting talking points, though, so perhaps I should log on to Free Republic and get some pointers from them about that.

So the fact is that even though you find porn distasteful, you may have a personal stake in the matter.

Yep, got it. Thanks to you showing me the light, I now realize that the expression of any negative opinions on porn by anyone, even feminists on a Women's Rights and Issues discussion forum, will ultimately lead to all women losing their reproductive freedom. Check. Porn is good...Porn is good...Porn is good.... How's that? Am I getting it? But gee whiz Mongo, your version of free speech doesn't feel very free. Guess I'll just have to keep trying until I get my thinking right.


Women performers make way more than men in porn, but the performers in general make $300 - $1000 (or more for stars) per day.

Well so much for that 'glass ceiling' b.s. huh? Porn is Good....