Women In The Home and Diaper Free Raising Topic

[AutumnMist]

http://slate.msn.com/id/2128061/?GT1=7125. Has anyone done this? I just cannot imagine. Any views on the subject are welcome.

[AutumnMist]

1. To make a point.....

this is not a pro disposable diaper point. I just can't imagine at two months old or even a month old being a parent and toilet training. And ideas on this?

[funflower]

3. I know some pretty funky earth-momma types who I think might do this.

The idea isn't to beat early toilet training into a child but just to teach them to "listen" to their gotta-go-potty "voice" rather than ignoring it because, with a diaper on, you can't do anything about it anyway. The idea of copying primitive people who simply take a child who is ready to urinate or defecate outside of the hut/home rather than diapering them comes in part from a book called The Continuum Concept, which was written by a woman who spent a lot of time with primitive people in South America and advocated adopting some of their parenting methods. She also supported feeding on demand, "baby wearing," and so forth, which have become quite popular.

Not that I've ever tried it, and it certainly doesn't fit with the career/mom lifestyle, but I think it's interesting and often misunderstood.

[Warpy]

7. Toilet training at under 18 months or so is "grunt training."

In other words, the kid grunts and mom is trained to slap a potty under its butt.

Nerve development for voluntary muscles proceeds from the head down and from the spine outward. The nerves are in place, but conduction is inefficient because they aren't protected by a myelin sheath, and that is what has to grow into place after birth. It's why young infants can't use their hands and why as soon as they can, they put everything into their mouths to investigate just what it is they've grabbed. They don't develop voluntary control over their elimination until they're about 18 months old because the myelin sheath around those nerves is not yet in place.

All the mothers in the late 40s and early 50s had contests with each other to see how early they could potty train their babies. Since the babies were incapable of voluntarily controlling the muscles responsible for pee and poop, the only ones who got trained were the moms. Grunt training.

Kiddos in mainland China have another alternative. Since kiddos tend to squat when they pee or poop, the Chinese have designed some really ingenious britches that part company at the bottom when the kid squats, and the pee and poop land on the sidewalk or garden.

Oh, and don't dis disposable diapers. Used ones are a great way to encourage woodchucks to live elsewhere, just find the den and shove a used diaper down the hole. They move.

[cap]

8. they also poop in the home...

and the mom's just clean it up...

[zalinda]

2. It only works if you are organized enough

to have the child on a schedule. If you are on a schedule your body does things in a certain order. So, if you know your child is going to have a bm at 10:00 am, you put them on the toilet just before 10. The child really doesn't have an understanding of what is going on until they are much older, until then it's mom sticking to a child's bodily schedule.

zalinda

[MADem]

4. In other words, it is parent training! nt

[dweller]

5. hell, it's ALL parent training initially. n/t

dp

[Lydia Leftcoast]

6. Babies and toddlers in China wear split pants and no diapers

I saw this all over, but I never saw any of them doing anything.