25 Million Women Voters Discovered On Planet Ceres

[omega minimo]

Democrats need women voters. Do Democrats know that?

Are women a captive audience with nowhere else to go but Anybody But (Jeb) Bush like the G***ns and progressive voters are?

Are Democrats comfortable focusing on other areas of electoral strategery, knowing that women and progressives are in the bag?

Do Democrats underestimate the potential impact on still-stealable elections of millions of current Non-Voters?

What about Republican Lite women voters (women who would vote for Democrats if they show backbone..........)?

After all we've been through and the current mostly-dormant status of this Forum, do we have something to say about this?

Are women valued by the Democratic Party?

Phase 2:

Thom Hartmann was talking about the effects on the world from "left-brained" violence-prone humans, saying that it was "cultural" and not gender-based or due to testosterone poisoning :spray: invoking the ideas and works of Rianne Eisler and others, "The Alphabet and The Goddess" and the effects of learning to read before age 7 (or not).

Right-brained? We need to explore and activate more of our "right-brained" (yes, let's call it that :evilgrin:) awareness in order to save life on this planet before we all have to move to Planet Ceres?



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[ShortnFiery]

1. FYI - this is all speculation as we (WOMEN VOTERS) are far

from a homogeneous population.

Best to nix any appeal to "protect me big guy with a warmongering backbone" - TYPE DINO women, they will usually vote Republican with their Hubbies; OR just stay at home; OR venture out in their SUVs for their facial appointment or pottery class INSTEAD of casting a vote. But would these type gals vote the Democratic Ticket? No Way! :(

IMO, do what's best for Moderate Democratic Values without segregating us by gender :thumbsdown: - that will appeal to Democrats and *some* moderate (non-religious nut case) republicans alike.

[omega minimo]

3. Au contraire, Short en Fieree, au contraire.

"this is all speculation as we (WOMEN VOTERS) are far from a homogeneous population."

We are homogenized if we are ignored as a block because we are considered guaranteed to vote a certain way.

And if you look at Phase 2, you may relate to the suggestions there.

"Best to nix any appeal to "protect me big guy with a warmongering backbone" - TYPE DINO women, they will usually vote Republican with their Hubbies; OR just stay at home; OR venture out in their SUVs for their facial appointment or pottery class INSTEAD of casting a vote. But would these type gals vote the Democratic Ticket? No Way!"

#1. that is not the type of backbone being referred to
#2. if you say we are not "homogenous" and if you respect women, it is astonishing that you would insult their intelligence with those statements
#3 don't tell anybody :shhhh: but R-Lite women that I know have set the bar at "The Environment." Unfortunately, Democrats do NOT have THAT "in the bag"

"IMO, do what's best for Moderate Democratic Values without segregating us by gender - that will appeal to Democrats and *some* moderate (non-religious nut case) republicans alike."

"Do what's best for Moderate Democratic Values" appears to be the tack that is taking Dem women voters for granted :evilfrown:

[ShortnFiery]

4. Sorry, we disagree ...

I believe in integration - complete. My husband and I are a case study in marriage role reversals. And that's a wonderful thing. We are FAR from homogeneous. :applause:

Nope, I find little use for Republican-Lite women who IMO have "no bar" (humanitarian - other than self values): Environmental and otherwise. :thumbsdown: I've tolerated their nasty dispositions in the work place, but I can't beat feet far enough away from my fellow broads with "most smarmy: attitudes. Yeah, I consider their nasty behavior a waste of feminine potential.

I say integrate and bring out the best "aspects" of both gender stereotypes.

Many of us Americans, both female and male, can qualify as "Androgynous" personalities.

However, to each her own. :hi:

[omega minimo]

6. Maybe not. Old Crusoe hit the nail on the head

so to speak :toast:

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2. It would be a more healthy culture in the U.S. (SuperPower bully) if

males were raised to be smaller than events, to be less than the process and the outcome. It would greatly reduce the idea of testosterone-driven hero-worship and emulation. It would reduce the idea of competition and territorialism, the seeds of armed conflict. The blade needs to be hammered into ploughshares.

Less blameworthy but still notable are cases where females are raised to be beholden to the status quo, girls who are prepped to be a husband's obedient property, females who are raised to reinforce the limitations of the greater male-dominant society. The chalice should be an emblem of enchantment made real.

We need more boys to grow up like Bill Moyers and fewer girls to grow up like Phyllis Schlafly.

Political parties move too slowly for anyone with passionately-held beliefs or ideals, but of the two major parties, the Democrats' picnic is a lot more promising than the Republicans'. It rains on everybody at Republican picnics. There are always a few select, strategic shelters at the Democrats' picnic. We are invited to stand underneath those.

There will come a day in most of our lifetimes when both major parties nominate women at the top of the ticket.

Tonight I miss Harriet Tubman and Bella Abzug, to choose just two examples, but I share their gains and power with anybody who wants to belong.

Plenty of work left to do. But the choice for me is a distinct one between the two parties.

[omega minimo]

5. Aye, and tis a golden shower, a trickle-on...................

"It rains on everybody at Republican picnics.'"

And that's the crux of the game, too, isn't it OC? Get everyone runnin skeert that they'll be left without a chair when the muzak stops?


"It would be a more healthy culture in the U.S. (SuperPower bully) if males were raised to be smaller than events, to be less than the process and the outcome" and fewer "females who are raised to reinforce the limitations of the greater male-dominant society."

Yer brillyant. :hug: And ye may remember something that would contribute to that vision, aka "critical thinking skills" that teach kids to cut through the crap. At this point, we have to hope on their inherent awareness and egalitarian relations.

"Plenty of work left to do. But the choice for me is a distinct one between the two parties"

My suggestion is that the Democrats-- since we still have stealable election mechanisms in place-- NOT understimate the potential power of voters that they (mistakenly?) assume are theirs to ignore.

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7. Hey there. Always a pleasure to bump into you on these boards,

and of late I get the added benefit of the visual company of one brave Kansan who was born with wings. She must have been.

"A ghost of aviation / she was swallowed by the sky
Or by the sea / like me, she had a dream to fly
Like Icarus ascending on beautiful, foolish arms..."
--Joni Mitchell, "Amelia"

_ _ _ _ _

I'm not feeling all that much safer just because toothpaste is banned on carry-ons, are you?

The Bush droids want us to whimper with gratitude for their saving us from the nasty terra-ists.

At such points in the grand scheme of things, I often put the headphones on and listen to "Tupelo Honey" by Van Morrison, "From Boulder to Birmingham" by Emmylou Harris, or "Carolina in My Mind" by James Taylor. A few bars into those compositions and Dubya is shrunk down once more to the little imp that he is, and I let these musicians' voices and words remind me of my need for quietude and unmitigated space.

I'd prefer blindingly swift reform in the Democratic Party, but I remain on the ramparts with the select few like Abzug and Boxer. I thought the attack on Barbara Boxer at firedoglake recently was unpardonable. I'm still kicking furniture over it. Ok, I'm not kicking furniture. But I thought it was disgraceful. Without grace.

We do need to get the Bush Republicans face-up on a raft and sent out into a strong sea-borne current. Labor Day weekend would be a good time -- the annual peak of hurricane season.

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8. There's a lot of space

b/w the phones you describe :thumbsup: usedtabe called "the Real World" and yes, all pretenders are puny in the face of it.

As for BB, she admitted that F-911 showed her that she did not want to be complicit if it happened again. It did. Nothing she ever does or does not will ever X out the brave stand she took on behalf of the nation on Jan. 6, 2005. :patriot:

And I am not afraid of any "gel-like substance." :hi:

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9. a hug then, to ya, and good wishes before I turn in.

:hi:

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