Abortion rights dont matter because it "only affects half the population"

[Clintonista2]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3509029&mesg_id=3510989

Wow. Just wow.

[Kutjara]

1. Yeah, I thought that was a delightful comment too.

One of those ones that just makes your brain shut down for a few seconds from sheer cognitive dissonance.

I'd say that if my wife decided to have an abortion (or not have one), I'd considered myself "affected."

[undergroundpanther]

2. well if they want to force pregnancy

Drop the unwanted baby on the males doorstep that insist women give birth and let HIM raise it himself..

Or...
Choice for men...

Don't ever have sex with any woman you don't want to have your baby.
Men don't like that idea, for some reason.they aren't stupid.
Every time they ejaculate into a vagina,
or even leak sperm close to a vagina,
the possibility of pregnancy exists.
If they want to choose,
they can choose not to explore that possibility.
After that decision is made,
they lose their choice.

Then woman then gets to make her choice.

Simple.

And if any male has a problem with taking responsibility about who they put their penis into or near, He has no choice,if he wants to force pregnancy,let men raise THEIR children alone...The results of their male irresponsibility.

[Triana]

5. Bingo - couldn'ta said it better meself (n/t)

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Yeah! Totally! Um, except the "they" who made the post linked in the OP is, uh, female.

But don't let that stop you.

:eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3509029&mesg_id=3510989

[Katherine Brengle]

3. Another dickblister bites the dust.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

4. Abortion rights matter because they affect 15-25% of the US population.

Around a million women have abortions in the US each year. That translates (unless my calculations are out) to somewhere between 15% and 25% of the American population having an abortion at some point in their lives. Not to mention the fathers, and all the knock-on effects.

That's not a small number. There's no "only" about affecting half the population.

Compare that with the hundreds of thousands of Americans affected directly by the occupation of Iraq. Or, indeed, with the size of the population of Iraq.

[Quantess]

7. I have replied to you before, and you have replied to me.

You deny being "anti-choice".
Magically.

You lied to me. You are anti-choice.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

8. Did you reply to the wrong post?

You appear to be taking my arguing that abortion is an important issue as evidence that I am "anti-choice". I presume you've made a mistake somewhere.

[Quantess]

10. No, I replied to your post.

However, in the past I have seen you phrase your arguments about abortion (which is very obviously a sizzling hot topic for you) in ambiguous, mincing ways.

I just don't really understand why you so dedicatedly sniff around the Women's Rights Forum, the Choice Forum, and you just hint around at your true wiles and ways.

Are you afraid of being banned if you express your true feelings about women and reproduction? Well, if you are, then, #1: this isn't the best place for you. #2: Sorry to break it you, but you aren't convincing anyone to share your beliefs. Abortion is a topic that people tend to already have cemented in their belief system.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

11. So tell me, what are my true beliefs?

I'd always thought that I believed that abortion should be legal on demand in the first two trimesters, and in some but not all circumstances in the third.

However, if you have better information about what I believe than that, I'd be interested to hear it...

[Nobody]

6. Who put that orange in my apple pie?

What is it with some people assuming that anything that involved reproduction is a women's issue andonly of importance to women and therefore not important?

Guess what?

I can multitask. I can simultaneously follow more than one news story and hold an opinion on more than one issue.

As it happens, oranges are yummy, and I love applesauce. But wait, I just saw some grapes....

[Warpy]

9. Nobody replied that war affects only a small percentage

of the other half of the population and only for a couple of years at a time.

More women have died in childbirth than men have died in wars, and the US statistics on maternal death are grim ones and getting worse.

Shame on them.