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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:56 PM
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Food: enough for all worldwide, if evenly distributed: BUT, reserves low
and this year, not enough new crop to feed all unless we dig into the two months reserve stocks.

If i read it right, read it fast.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2063340#2063462


Refute the RW claim of "some must go hungry, just not enough food."

Note also my re at that linked thread,... vegetarianism would free up massive grain amounts.

fast figuring , it would free up a fourth of total harvest, which now disappears as grain is inefficiently converted by cows and pigs into compact meat. Someone please figure how much that is, as manifested as a percent increase in available food. THe percent is near a fourth, but not exactly that.

Enough money for all too, Mr. RWer. The world GNP totals sum to 55.5 TRillion. Source, the cia site... but news item said they admitted to putting tracking cookies on visitors. hmmm.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:58 PM
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1. Distribution is always the big problem, always has been
Look at how economic wealth is distributed in this country. Look at how healthcare is distributed. Look at how nourishing food is distributed.

If we can get the US off its heavy meat addiction, we can solve world hunger. If we have the will to educate women and give them some hope of being more than property that generates infants, preferably males, we can cure overpopulation.

It's just not going to happen, any of it.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:59 PM
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2. Thanks for posting
It's really an important article. Even politics takes a back seat to survival.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:07 PM
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4. thank YOU, serry. It really is an important article
you are to be commended for getting it on DU.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:04 PM
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3. Just like there is not enough money to go around.
It is called hording.

Some people, groups, organizations, businesses horde capital and food. This is how they control others.

It's not that hard to understand is it?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:02 PM
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6. NOT as important
We lived for years on barter. IF we have a food or water problem than the die-off begins...and it won't be pretty
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:13 PM
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5. Now we will convert more grain into ethanol.
The rush to do so is on. So unfortunately, the number will soon be skewed further.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 07:54 PM
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7. The optimal population, as said elsewhere, is 3 billion.
Per this article


Which is the populations of India and China combined...

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 09:28 AM
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8. opinions differ
Some say 500 million is plenty.

Others say sustainable population level was passed in the 1980's, which would put the number at some 5 billion.

Personally i am suspicious of any argument for population reduction that excludes distribution of wealth as a factor in poverty. Half of all the wealth is owned by just a couple of hundred individuals. Ever since supply-side economics was adopted the rich have been getting richer while the poor have been getting poorer.

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Herman74 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:55 PM
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9. One of the first things Bush did as President was severely cut family planning assistance...
...to poor people of the developing countries. One of the hallmarks of conservatism is being short-sighted, lacking the capacity to think deeply. So, as time passes, there shall be billions more to feed.

We (and when I say we, I mean the entire world) need a Democratic President.
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