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Morpheal Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:55 AM
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HOMELESS AND MENTAL ILLNESS - NEED FOR CHANGE
One of the things America has taught is the closing down of costly and admittedly archaic
public funded mental institutions, throwing the inmates out onto the streets. A cost
saving in a free enterprise, privatized medicine, system. Why improve those facilities
because that costs a lot of money. Why modernize them ? That is too expensive. The
private enterprise segment will not take over that function. Too expensive, and government
does not want to pay them to do it either. So the solution ? Toss the inmates of public
mental institutions out onto the streets. Make them homeless.

We fell for that in Canada too, and in discussion with someone who used to run a public
mental hospital, as its chief psychiatrist, I found the same concern that I had arrived at,
that many of those people who had been institutionalized were in fact unable to function
properly in society. Many were and remained mentally ill. However, they were tossed out
into society, and the public hospitals closed down, or their services greatly reduced. It
was in part American influence and in part the high cost of institutionalization. We agreed
that the long term costs of the failure to provide adequate and progressive institutional
care for those people were higher than the costs of care. Many became physically sicker,
seriously injured, frost bitten, infected, and drug addicted once out there. Each such
instance was in fact a costly consequence of lack of care. We are tired of being Americanized
in Canada. Tired of getting led in the wrong direction. We are tired of seeing our own
people suffer more and more similarly to how some Americans are made to suffer. We had
something a little better than that going for us back in the days before we became so
wrongfully convinced to become more 'American' in our ways of doing things. Luckily
we still have socialized medicine, as the UK has its national health system. So the
homeless get picked up in ambulances, taken in to emergency rooms, and they get
treated without questions as to whether they have credit cards and bank balances. We
don't leave them in the back alley trash compactors.

The fact is that a large percentage of the homeless do have social and psychological
problems far in excess of those prevalent in the majority of the population. They often
do not recognize their own problems. They get little or no treatment, once out on the
street. They are simply discarded, thrown away, because no one else can really handle
their problems outside of medical institutionalization. If they fail to commit a serious
crime and do not get housed in a prison, they remain out on the streets, hopeless
cases of chronic illness.

Simply because of the way mental institutions were run in the past, does not mean that
public facilities for the care and treatment of society's ill should be closed or lacking.
The largest portion of the homeless need physical and psychological medical care. They
need one or another form of medication. They need a sheltered environment. Many
are fragile personalities or variously dysfunctional, needing sheltered communities,
where they can be given more meaningful lives than the hell of out on the street.

Unfortunately in a free enterprise, privatized, medical system that is hard to do. It is
even harder to build and maintain modern facilities that truly provide for quality of
life rather than merely incarceration. Medicated incarceration is not a positive enough
answer, but providing opportunity for real quality of life while meeting special needs
is an answer and that answer is not optional. It is something a society must do, among
its most fundamental responsibilities.

The cost ?

How much are the fiscal corporate bailouts costing ?

It doesn't cost that much.


Cheers.

Robert Morpheal





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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:43 AM
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1. K to the R to the m-a-x
:kick:
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:25 AM
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2. K and R
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 06:51 AM
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3. this hopefully
will be a priority for the new administration. you make a wonderful advocate.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 09:29 AM
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4. A-freaken-men. K&R
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 11:33 AM
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5. K&R.
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 11:36 AM by tosh
Edited to add: WELCOME, Morpheal! :hi:
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:01 PM
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6. reagan legacy and conservatives and rw - they had homes - institutions but at least they were not
on the street with no one looking after them
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 02:26 PM
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7. This happened in California when Proposition 13 was passed.
The funding was used for various social programs such as housing the mentally ill and mentally dysfunctional, to help police and fire departments meet their payrolls, free education in our state and university system, etc.. Since Jerry Brown our Governor then had a budget surplus, he was able to keep many of the programs going for three more years, but when he left office, then one started seeing the homeless in the streets. It was obvious that many of them were chronically dysfunctional and should never have been made to fend for themselves. We need to get the funds to do this again. Maybe some people object to institutionalizing these people, but a clean bed in a safe environment under supervision has to be a lot better than a shopping cart and concrete bed.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:20 PM
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8. With all due respect, it's time to stop putting so much emphasis on this.
In the first place, the LARGE closures were much earlier....the 60s.

In the Second place, what you're doing by continuing to trumpet this, is to turn the attention away from the REAL problem... lack of low-income housing. THAT is the real issue, and even "progressives" aren't willing to make it an issue and resolve it. They are content with homelessness, and I believe that this is part of the reason why.

THIRD, by saying that most of us homeless people are "mentally ill" (which is UNTRUE--the rates are basically the same as the population as a whole!), you make it very hard for those of us who simply need a place to live that is what we can afford. We are put under a microscope that NONE OF YOU could respond well to, and assumptions are made that are impossible to undercut.

There is plenty of evidence and facts and figures that say otherwise, but it's so much more comforting to cling to these stories... it's very Reaganite. And it's hurting us.

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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 04:48 PM
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9. Good intentions!
Hi, I have to ditto Bobbolink's concern. While there are mentally ill folks that are homeless, what a sad double tragedy, the vast majority of homeless are not, however they have to contend with the perception of being such from others everyday.

We do have to help the mentally ill, in all situations. We also have to recognize that the homeless problem is due mostly to a lack of low income housing. When we only focus on the mentally ill, and give the perception that homelessness naturally entails mental illness, it creates a severe problem for the mentally well homeless in regards to communication, and trying to get help, or even just to deal with society as people treat them like they do many of the mentally ill, which is not with understanding. Thank you for the read.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 07:12 PM
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10. I think your main point was the lack of concern/care for the mentally ill.
That is one of my life's biggest concerns, as I have a son whose illness, I fear, may leave him homeless after his dad & I are gone -- with no money, because he cannot receive disability benefits without a representative -- or put into jail.

My son really needs long-term hospitalization, something only a Bill Gates budget could afford at the current standard of care. He needs a wise, caring psychiatrist to ease his fears & to get him motivated to move in the right direction, a doctor with enough concern to find the right medication for him.

There's a great need for good mental facilities everywhere. I'm sorry that Canada is using the U.S. as an example, because it's indeed true that the mentally ill are often dismissed by putting them in jail, the most convenient "lock-up" option that would be supported financially by the government.

One other thought: Here at DU I've read about so many crimes committed by what I could pretty much determine as mentally ill people. Too bad there isn't enough people in society who can recognize that if mentally ill people had the proper treatment available to them, many of these crimes would be prevented. It would take a mandate of people to push for change.

Sad, sad indeed.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 10:23 PM
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11. It's getting to the point that homelessness is being defined as a mental illness
In the public mind.

And that is unfortunate in many ways.
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