Thanksgiving:Hunger up a million is Bush plan in Budget

[oscar111]

Bush is such a fine christian gentleman, his Fed Budget plan for next year lists a cut to Food Stamps. {Jesus--"sell all and give the money to the poor" Luke 18:22}

It will, if enacted, increase mass hunger from 12 million to 13 million.

Reaganomics for 24 years now, and the result is the appearance of mass hunger and mass homelessness.

As a "spark to the economy", Reaganomics is a failure.
A 24-year failure. Time to toss Reaganomics.

Look to Keynes for sparking an economy.. invests in the health and education of the PRODUCERS, the middle and lower classes.... when PRODUCERS are healthy and educated, the output naturally rises.

---'52, the year of highest upper level tax, ninety percent {now it is a third of what it should be.. only a weak 35%}, and thus '52 was the time of the LEAST reaganomics,.... was a time of prosperity. That tax money was used for the health and education of the middle class.

It was Not used, the way that money is used today, in untaxed form... today, it is used for two million dollar birthday parties--Kozlowski..with vodka flowing from the male opening in a statue. And for thousand dollar each, omlets at the Parker Meridian hotel, NYC.

3 million homeless, they die at three times the normal rate, so Reaganomics kills 84,000/yr.

Total US wealth is $105 Trillion.
{that's Trillions.. the cures below are in Billions, so all below .. 316 Billion.. would fit into just ONE of the Trillion mentioned above, and there are over a hundred Trillion in the total}.
CURES FOR SOCIAL ILLS...
12 Billion would end hunger.
4 Billion would end homelessness.
3OO Billion would end all poverty.

PS.. 3O Billion would double the NIH, and so cut in half the time to find disease cures. 9O Billion would cut the time to one-fourth.
And so forth . In theory, the whole hundred trillion would cut research time for a cure, from ten years to one day.

total wealth can be found on bottom line here linked {liabilities line 21, can be paid back, from the cash we have on loan. Just like paying off a loan with the money you borrowed in the first place.}

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/current/accessible/l5.htm

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Droopy]

1. You make some very good points

I've always thought that we have it in our ability to make the world a paradise for all- and it's true. We truly have it within our reach to make sure that every person has shelter, health care and enough to eat. It's a crime and a very depressing shame that we don't do more for those who do not have the means to provide for themselves.

[politicat]

2. You really want to get a hold of a concept called Social Credit.

It's the most logical economic policy I've ever seen - heck, even the math works. (Try that with Smith OR Keynes.) A modified form of it has been in place in Alaska since they started doing the dividends and Alberta used it for decades. A lot of what you're talking about becomes practically trivial under a fully implemented, national Social Credit scheme.

It's an all or nothing system, though. It can't be implemented half-way. (This is why Alberta had problems.)

The originator of the theory was Clifford Hugh Douglas; Robert Heinlein's very first book (which was just published this year), For Us, The Living, has a good, accessible description of how the policy works.

Here's a link to the book, and a bit of exposition on the book:
http://www.mondopolitico.com/library/socialcredit/socialcredit.htm

Pcat

[oscar111]

3. Social Credit? Heinlein, ur source, was notorious RW=er

Are you sure this is not some RW idea being served up as a LW idea?

Heinlein was widely assailed for his RW ideas.

Sorry i dont have time for long article links.. pls do a summary on this thread. thanks. Then i can evaluate this SOC CREDIT idea.
again, thanks.

not calling you a freeper, just calling Heinlein a RW-er. You may have been misled. It happens to us all from time to time, including me. In college, i thought rand was interesting.. for about two days LOL.

[Sugarbleus]

4. Hey Oscar!! Glad to see you are still banging the drums for

these issues. Things in my area where poverty issues are concerned, are getting worse. I'm fit to be tied.

I don't know if you write to editors or whatever, but I'd be willing to do that myself. I'd kinda like to use some of your findings, if it's okay with you?

Let's keep in touch... I got overwhelmed with politics for a bit; had to take some "down time" to rest. I'm feeling a bit better (though not happier at current trends) and want to DO SOMETHING to bring these issues to the front of the line.

Keep on Truckin' Oscar, I'm on the same page. :hi: