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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:12 PM
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Why are poor foreigners welcome in America while poor Americans in many cases cannot work abroad?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 08:16 PM by Boojatta
Below is a carrot and stick idea to increase balance.

In many cases, countries that have a relatively low cost of living also have governments with very bad human rights records. Some of those countries try to bring in outsiders to work in various occupations, such as teaching English as a second language. Of course, this is facilitated by the US government. If the US government offered no assistance to any American working outside the US, then there would be significantly fewer expats. Nobody wants to be stuck abroad at the mercy of a government that has a very bad human rights record.

Therefore, it might be possible to put downward pressure on the number of Americans working abroad in occupations that are in high demand in particular locations abroad. The idea is that the US government could cease to automatically provide assistance through a consulate or embassy to Americans working abroad. After a specified date, Americans already abroad would continue to be protected, but anyone planning to go abroad to work in an occupation that is in a particular list would need approval. Anyone could go, but the US government would not necessarily provide assistance outside America.

Consider a country with a low cost of living. If its government permits a certain number of poor Americans to live and work in it, then the US government would guarantee assistance to a certain number of Americans who have been offered jobs abroad.

This could provide some leverage to improve human rights abroad. For example, from the point of view of poor foreigners, it may be unacceptable for their rights to be violated while not only are high-income foreigners protected, but poor foreigners are protected. Perhaps, in exchange for a fee and a written promise to not actually come to America, foreigners could receive US citizenship.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:18 PM
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1. Most of the poor foreigners who come here come because the US
has screwed up their country. Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, Viet Nam, Guatemala and so on. Maybe we should get our government to stop screwing with other countries to prop up US corporate interests. :think:
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:24 PM
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2. True, and we allow the to come here
In order for big corporations to break the unions! It's sad that we allow big corporations to not only destroy our economy, but the economy of other countries. NAFTA has done damage to the "people" of all the countries involved than it has done the so called "good" that was supposed to occur once NAFTA became law.

What we need is "FAIR TRADE" not so called "FREE" trade which only helps he big corporations screw everyone!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:26 PM
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3. Exactly. They get us coming AND going.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:38 PM
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7. The problem is in the boardrooms and not at the borders.
The sooner everyone realizes that the better off we will all be.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:28 PM
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5. You omitted South Korea from your list.
Had it not been for American interference, they could be enjoying life in a worker's paradise just like North Korea.
;-)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:37 PM
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6. I left it out because I don't know anything about it. How are things?
:)
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:28 PM
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4. Well, to answer the question in your subject line...
The U.S. has her own standards, which on this subject, may be perceived by some people, as being higher than the standards of other countries.

Below is a carrot and stick idea to increase balance.

As an American, may I suggest something other than a carrot, such as a slice of pizza, a cookie, or a pornographic magazine?

This could provide some leverage to improve human rights abroad. For example, in exchange for a fee and a written promise to not actually come to America, foreigners could receive US citizenship.

Why would people want to be U.S. citizens if they could not come here or receive our government's protection?

Consider a country with a low cost of living. If its government permits a certain number of poor Americans to live and work in it,

Countries with a low cost of living don't always have enough jobs for their own citizens, adding outsiders to their job market could make that situation even worse.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 11:03 PM
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8. "Why would people want to be U.S. citizens if...
... they could not come here or receive our government's protection?"

They would receive protection. The idea is to put downward pressure on the number of Americans leaving America and working in countries where human rights aren't protected. It's a bargaining tool. Foreigners who receive US citizenship while abroad and who agree to stay abroad are in a different category. They would receive all the protection that US embassies and consulates can provide.
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