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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:19 PM
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Welfare Money Spent On Luxury Items
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/27709217/detail.html?treets=atl

In Georgia this year, recipients will receive $52 million in
TANF dollars, Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, commonly
known as welfare. A Whistleblower 2 Investigation revealed
thousands of dollars spent at liquor stores, strip clubs even
bowling alleys by TANF recipients.

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Interesting article.  What would be even more interesting
would be the use of data mining to really determine what is
going on in welfare spending.  It is easy to point to a few
examples of abuses and indict the system, but these data
mining techniques can be used to assess additional areas of
fraud (like unreported income etc).  What will eventually
happpen, if welfare fraud detection is done in this fashion,
is that the purchases on these cards will go towards necessary
goods and services once again?  If fraud is occuring, the off
the books income will be spent instead.  I really hate to
think that this spending is not fraud enabled, because this
means that desperately poor families are not spending money on
neccessities.

On the flip side aren't these welfare beneficiares entitled to
privacy in their spending decisions?
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GomezLives Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:20 PM
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1. Liquor is a necessity.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:24 PM
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2. As are cigarettes, both serous and funny.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:25 PM
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4. as are strip clubs
without strip clubs a man can't really be said to live
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:24 PM
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3. I don't think welfare recipients ar entitled to privacy in their spending.
It's part of the deal that you surrender that in order to get the benefit. It sucks that people take advantage of the system, but it's tiny compared to the number that benefit honestly and miniscule compared to corporate welfare. We should aggressively work to limit fraud but that doesn't mean we should abandon the system.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:31 PM
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5. +1. Pennies compared to oil subsidies.
:shrug:
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:35 PM
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6. And all those illegal wars....
Funny how the poor are always the target.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:36 PM
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7. Exactly. And bowling is a luxury activity? n/t
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 01:27 PM
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15. Yes... Have you seen the shoes?
They are spiffy!
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Sadena Meti Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 07:16 AM
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12. Relative Evils don't work.
It's like say "well he's not as bad as Hitler"
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WAFS Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 09:09 AM
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20. +1 n/t
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phdmoma Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:40 PM
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21. What should the people on food stamps buy?
I am hearing a lot of talk on this and I would like someone to make a list.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-11 08:02 PM
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23. So glad you would have demanded to see how I spend the money
I raised my children on. Somewhere out there today is someone like me - someone with a seriously disabled child who needs 24/7 care. Someone with two other children to raise. Someone who's husband did not want to provide for those children and never paid more child support than $20 a month. Someone who spent every single dime on those children. Someone who could never afford a home of her own. Someone who did not own a car and is today in deep poverty because she chose to take care of her children instead of dump them.

But you want to turn that person into the equivalent of a criminal. So glad you care so much.:sarcasm:
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 03:48 PM
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8. funny how rich people can do whateve they want with their government money.
Edited on Fri Apr-29-11 03:48 PM by provis99
But when we're talking about a pathetically low $52 million given to poor people, suddenly everyone wants lectures, drug tests, and supervision.

The values of America.

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a simple pattern Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:08 PM
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9. Even bowling alleys?!
My monocle!
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:11 PM
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10. At least they are getting exercise
Assuming its bowling and not drinks.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:47 PM
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11. Somebody should investigate the millions and millions
of oil and farm subsidies to see that they are spending the welfare money properly. Do I hear calls for it?? Do I? I think all I hear is crickets.
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peace17 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-11 02:22 AM
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13. its non of any body's business how they gonna spend their money
they can spend it on alcohol, drug, stripper, cable TV, whatever they want , its their decision
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 12:20 PM
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14. I think is when there are children involved.
If the money is going toward alcohol for adults instead of food and clothing for children, that's a problem.
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MrDiaz Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:47 AM
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16. This is Ridiculous
First off NO. Welfare recipients are not entitled to privacy while spending the money they receive, because they give that right up when they choose to take the money from the government. And 2nd, It's the people that take advantage of the system, and abuse it that are the problem, they are the ones that give welfare the bad name.
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ATLdemocrat Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-11 01:28 PM
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18. Outrage over the poor buying beer with welfare money
Meanwhile, the rich buy yachts and private jets with their welfare money, and they get praised for it.
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Antifa919 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-23-11 10:13 PM
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22. Oh puh-lease
The majority of those on welfare don't abuse their rights.

The "welfare queen" stereotype has long been put to death.

Sure, there are people who are gaming the system, and they ruin it for everyone else, but the majority of the people are just not like that. We have to remember that every case is different and often times if they do spend it on liquor, they often have had a drinking problem long before they went on welfare.
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